Just making sure... people are here because of what #nostr is about other than a neat way to tip #bitcoin, right?
Zaps are all going through Wallet of Satoshi and ln dot tips. Centralized and Custodial.
That's the opposite of what makes nostr, noster.
am I wrong?
#nostrplebs #plebchain #grownostr
think of it as a second/third adoption layer where you entrust a few sats to a third party who will hopefully try to maintain a reputation for not stealing it right away.
for simplification and fast deployment on the emerging nostr protocol, it is sufficient and not the final solution
We have #Trezor for the #bitcoin.
I'm glad to hear that. I looked into seeing what it would take to self host my own lnurl address, and in that rabbit hole found out why there's only two sites offering it.
It's not simple, but it does hide a lot about the ln btc for outside parties. Yet, outside parties have the benefit of seeing who gets sent what on nostr with signed receipts.
I'm okay with 3rd party involvement long term, and I think there's not any issue there, and it's fine if there's some compromises now that can eventually be overcome.
Do you know anyone who's taking part in the realizing a vision for the future?
Zeus is easy to tie to your own node so that’s my regular wallet, and what I use for sending zaps. Can’t set up an LNUrl with it though, so I use WoS for receiving zaps. For me, WoS never holds very many sats, I transfer to Zeus when needed.
heh... yeah that's what I've found as well. I got lightning node running on my phone even. There's a lot of good wallets and node setups for different people and tradeoffs. Which is great!
Yet for now, this whole zaps system relies on all funds flowing through custody in an antithetical way.
A lot of people are probably losing privacy by the way they send sats on nostr. You generate an invoice linked to your identity, and send sats from a wallet that's yours. LN privacy already isn't perfect, and zaps broadcast a signed transaction receipt with both parties have verified identites.
And that kind of data is gold to a company like cyphertrace
