I agree they can both be better for privacy but neither are Bitcoin. I disagree with your other point. Bulletproofs, Ring CTs, and Dandelion ++ aren't viable?
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Anything that relies on Blockchains to process transactions can't scale, especially ones that trades off bloat for privacy (ring ct) - if everyone used it, nobody could run a full node
You need different layers that make different trade offs to actually be viable
Lightning is definitely Bitcoin, you can trustlessly revert back to mainchain at anytime
Anything that relies on Blockchains to process transactions can't scale, especially ones that trades off bloat for privacy (ring ct) - if everyone used it, nobody could run a full node.
You need different layers that make different trade offs to actually be viable
> I don't have a reason to disagree.
Lightning is definitely Bitcoin, you can trustlessly revert back to mainchain at anytime
> Lightning has to be reverted back to the mainchain, which is Bitcoin. Lightning isn't Bitcoin.
I'm also more of a fan of Lightning and Ecash than Monero.
That's just semantics. It's like saying a dollar bill is not an actual dollar but a representation of it.