I had no idea these could be jam... The bears like them

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With a cultivar like "Garnet" I get around 4 kg of (double size) berries of 1m - 1,5m diameter shrubs.

Delicious sweet-sour :autumn-olive:

The sensation I remember is like a tangy dry mouth before the sweet.

Maybe the wild ones have more of the cotton sensation

Yup :110percent: , same as with goumi berries. Wild ones and hedge cultivars seem to suck all the moisture out your mouth first 😅.

Cultivars and seeds from cultivar crosses (in my experience) don't really have that much.