yeah anywhere else in the world he would be considered far right, if that helps.
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this political compass and any related test are a load of crap, which he even says in the video. i actually agree that political labels and spectrums are unhelpful and wish we would just do away with them.
except the minute i see someone saying they're "just normal" or just saying/thinking "normal things" i know to run a mile, which is helpful.
You called him far right and then said we should do away with labels, so which is it?
i didn't actually. i used inverted commas when i refered to this label, and said that people outside america consider him far right. what i mean is that i'm not interested in the distortion of labels or nitpicking semantics to cover up for cruel beliefs and actions.
I think you should be more careful when speaking on these topics because your responses have given seemingly the opposite impression you were trying to convey then.
How about you say which specific views of his were contrary to freedom and autonomy? And don't bring up abortion because if you are falling for the psyop that that is to divide us, then i don't know what to tell you.
go ask grok. if this is really your argument, you should sit down. once again: i'm not celebrating this man's death, even though it seems like he was a terrible person. let him and all those like him say what they want to say, as loudly as they want to. let them reveal themselves so we see people for what they are.
You made the claim that his ideology is bad for freedom and autonomy and when i asked for specifics you used the leftist tactic of "its not my job tp educate you"... Why even post?
if you cannot see abortion as a freedom and autonomy issue then i can't help you. the man literally said he was against civil rights for black people, equality for women, rights for gay and trans people, and religious freedom. and he advocated for the death penalty. all of these infringe on personal freedom and individual liberty. why are you trying to rewrite his positions posthumously?
I never listened to him, i aint trying go rewrite his positions at all, you made a claim that ive never heard justified and so i asked for specifics.
I said to igbore abortion bc its a highly devisive issue that is not going to be solvable bc one side is religious about it, im pro choice for govt policy, but still think those who get abortions are committing murder, but thats between them and their god.
From looking up what you mentioned, the civil rights thing, you seem to be misunderstanding his opinion, you can be against the federal govt enforcement of the civil rights act and still think blacks are equal. My spouse and 2 kids are black and i share that view, its not a right wing view, its a libertarian view against authoritarianism.
I dont see anything of him against womens rights, considering he had a wife and daughter, i find your claim to be doubtful, so if you have a specific example then im open to correction.
Theres 0 chance hes against religious freedom.
I bet your point about gay rights is based on marriage, which gets back to a states rights issue.
The trans rights issue I'd bet he was just against kids getting it, which is not an infringment of freedom. Unless your talking about the sports issue, which coulntradicts your womens rights issue.
Ill agree with you on the death penalty issue, the state should never be the arbiter of life or death of a human considering the rights of life liberty and property are the purpose of our founding documents. But for the other issues, unless you can site specifics, my understanding for the republican position on all of these is states rights. Which as an anarchist i see as a solid first step towards a weaker federal govt enabling more freedom.
ok maybe actually listen to him first and then get back to me. although i wouldn't recommend it.
Nah, again youre using the "not my job to educate you even tho i made the claim" tactic.
Keep running around the internet calling people you disagree with far right and then moving the goal posts and then continuing to not provide evidence, im sure someone will end up convinced.
if the guy is a hero to anarchists then god help us
He's not, but you're sullying the memory of a dead man who was influential to thousands of americans, i disagree with at least 75% of the things ive read about his views since he passed, but all your tactics achieve is moving people towards more authoritarian influencers than him like nick fuentes.
Highly doubtful, seems like a very Americancentric view of the world lol. perhaps if by 'rest of the world' you mean only Scandinavian countries, maybe I'd give you that lol. He's pretty much considered fairly moderate socially conservative in his views
You're posting from a country with free healthcare
Wake up
I don't see what that has to do with anything and the NHS is paid for by taxes and national insurance, so not technically free.
It's free for people who don't pay taxes or insurance
And you're pretending the UK (and world) is as right wing as Nazi America, nowhere near as left wing as Scandinavia, while Nazi America will bill a homeless person millions of sats for one ambulance ride
I think the US healthcare system (the little I know about it) sounds like total shit. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
('national insurance' is just a tax on everyone who works, and not some sort of health insurance, just fyi. Cos it might be a confusing name).
But anyway.
If Tommy Robinson is not undermining universal healthcare, I say he is left of Charlie Kirk
If he is, but the UK is delaying it, I say the UK is left of the US for as long as that lasts
Tommy Robinson isn't running for election, most of the country including a lot of the right think he is a prat
Then pls see what I'm saying 😭
I can't tell if you've confused Tommy Robinson with Nigel Farage, so I'm not sure what you're saying. But I'm very dubious of both. Neither are conservative, there is no conservative party political representation in the UK, I would probably say there isn't /much of a socialist party political representation either btw (although the new jeremy Corbyn party might actually be just that) and I think that is a major problem here.
I have a feeling the same could be said of the US.
I mentioned Tommy Robinson as the biggest rightiest right winger I knew of from the UK
I thought Nigel Farage was considered leftist, so I might not know much, I mainly know the healthcare comparison is main reason people say the US is far right