How would you force someone to receive handouts? This works specifically because you sign over the choice to vote during the receiving of the benefit.
The incentives are 1000x better aligned than the current cluster fuck we have. There’s no possible way it could be worse than people voting themselves other peoples stuff.
You just send them money. No questions asked. No one will return that.
Identify a population you don’t want voting and deposit some support cash. Declare ineligible to vote.
Another would be to ask if they want it. Who will say no? The poor will certainly accept.
And how much would they be willing to spend to get people to not vote? And what would that get them if not a subsidy, handout, govt contract or the like? Those are exactly the things being fought over.
You realize people could do that exact same thing today. Just tell someone they will pay them $100, $1000, whatever not to vote. To what degree is that tool abused?
Then compare that to how many illegal immigrants and given govt paid housing, how many welfare recipients are bribed and appealed to en masse for more handouts, how many special interest projects lobby for contracts there are today.
I totally get what you are saying, but we are making a comparison here. There’s zero chance, zero, that the abuse of “pay people not to vote” equals the LITERAL trillions that get fought over in our current system by people voting themselves other peoples funds. Arguably it’s almost the entirety of how our govt runs.
It’s a fun thought experiment, but in no universe does the example you raise even visibly show up on a chart with the current resource corruption next to it.
Well, I guess I've been shown a lesson.
Why punch up when is a whole lot easier to punch down.
It sure makes a case for efficiency.
Ok, that ↑↑ is my first gut reaction.
Because opinions are all based on the assessments made by the logic developed by experiences, exposure & programming.
Truth is, not one of us has ever been in anyone else's skin but our own.
This is why people agree and disagree in free exchanges.
I don't know if what you're intending to say is this, but this is how I understood it:
(Please use bold lettering and underline on the "How I Understood It" part).
The working poor do not deserve a vote because the system who oppresses them and forces them into labor--into jobs that no one born into any kind of 1st world level of comfort would ever even imagine themselves or their loved ones doing; the system that also rewards corporations which do not pay a value for value compensation for that labor while also scamming their "employees" (more like slaves) & their customers at the behest of their investors; that same system should gag them.
That way they cannot protest vote their way out of the oppressive system which has worked like clockwork for those still in power.
No oppressed working poor has been able to escape their oppressors without help.
There are no "self-made" people. None of us are self made.
We're not even BIOLOGICALLY SELF-MADE. It took, at minimum, "parents" to make each and everyone of us.
Any single one rising above the tide does such with a combination of survival instinct, the circumstances presented & available, their rate of absorption of the information presented, their physical & mental ability, the influences they have been exposed to, their association and interactions with others among other qualities.
Everything & everyone around us, combined with our own physicality, mental acuity, & even faith; plays a part in every choice & every step we take in our lives.
Self-accountability IS A THING. I am not undermining that at all.
Self-accountability is essential for our very own survival. We need repentance, not just say or feel "sorry." Repentance is felt in the core, the deepest deep of one's gut. The nausea has to be there for one to truly know what BAD is.
The 180 won't hold otherwise, because "sorry" didn't cut it.
Self-accountability is essential for repentance, & repentance is essential for the turn-around.
But self-accountability isn't the only thing needed.
Compared to many folks, I've lived 100 lives. Not only based on what I've survived, but also based on the exposure to the thousands of oppressed people I lived & worked with.
Two decades plus under my belt with trafficked, enslaved, abused, raped, broken... people of all ages, colors, nationalities & creeds.
Only one thing in common:
POOR.
Not just poor, but some extremely hard working poor.
But, hey, if they need any assistance of any kind from any source for anything... f****, ahem, screw their agency.
Let's shut them up and eliminate their vote.
To tell you the truth, Democracy isn't even what we need as a species. Consensus..? more like it... but democracy... uh... is ... uh... It's a bully system.
It is a system so corruptible, not only for its propensity for rigging, but just the fact that it opens the door to the bullying of one another. Everyone trying to constantly one up each other, trying to convince & shove ideologies down each other's throats.
I have not voted since late 1990's. I have not been presented with a decent option on a ballot, and even then... I shall TRUST those in power to count my poor-ass vote, when I know their system is simply working perfectly for them?
So, under my own premise, I SHOULDN'T CARE whether you'd want the poor/working poor/oppressed to have a voice with a vote.
Since I don't believe the system is working, why #risk getting #pummelled in #Nostr by folks who, do not only disagree with me, but are very quick to jump me to teach me a lesson?
It would be a valid question, don't you think? considering that there are a few premises & opinions with which I do agree with you.
I shouldn't care and I shouldn't risk.
But I do, because in your statement, there is a level of belief coming from you. One that appears to believe that democracy COULD work. And if it did, you'd want anyone needing help in any aspect from the very hand who's punching them over and over, to not participate in it.
I hope I am incorrect in my assessment, for empathy & compassion are not the qualities that have brought us so close to destruction.
Corruption, greed, selfishness, envy, pride & gluttony have.
These do, however, cloak themselves under the guise of empathy & compassion.
I've seen it a million times over.
Luke 10:25-37
