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Before I make the investment in the hardware and the time to migrate to different apps by getting a degoogled pixel with GrapheneOS, I’m trying to decide if there will be any practical privacy benefit to doing so, given that my work phone will always be fully googled and tracked by virtue of the apps my employer insists on. The only way I can see there being any practical benefit and making this any more than a technology experiment is if my work phone only gets carried offsite during work hours. Then, thinking further:

- If I choose to only carry a degoogled phone when I’m away from work, how do I do voice comms with a KYC sim to get on my local carrier?

- If I’m constantly in the company of people with spyware phones when I’m away from work, aren’t most of my physical movements and other info able to be inferred anyway? I can’t even talk to my kids or my wife or friends about a new topic or purchase within earshot of their phones without it creeping into their ad feeds. Is any of the James Bond stuff even worth it?

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Troy 1w ago

Yes, everyone's phones are spying on all of us.

Converting your phone to a privacy-based one is helping the herd move in the right direction. Don't underestimate it! I think the biggest benefit is showing it off.

1776 1w ago

Do you have any insight into the question about how to have cellular data access without KYCing the device with the local carrier? Or would I have to find a no KYC data only sim provider and only use voip for voice? Thx

Cykros 1w ago

What OS you run isn't going to matter when it comes to your carrier's ability to track your location -- they can do that on completely dumb phones as it is a function of radio triangulation. The point of Graphene is to prevent you from leaking data to Google, and to prevent apps from leaking data from one app to another, more than anything.

As for multiple SIM's, someone else will speak better to that than I can. Presumably you can choose which you're using when making calls (and using data) but I don't have direct experience there. The SIM is basically your credentials to access each network, so managing them is going to be how you manage what carriers get.

1776 1w ago

Yes I’m definitely aware of the lack of anonymity that comes with having a KYC simm for the local carrier. I’m just not sure if a guy has to go wifi only or whether options exist to get a non KYC data only e-sim or something and do voip. It’s all starting to feel like if I want to be off the grid I just don’t carry anything when I’m not at work or at the house. I can’t wait till I retire I’m going to skip this MF’er across the lake.

Grace and Truth 1w ago

I had to really think through my goals around it, to decide what I was aiming for and how to set it up.

sêkwêstkwân ᓭᑫᐧᐢᑎᑳᐧᐣ 1w ago

Great questions. If your doing the pixel 3a id recommend use the Ubuntu touch os. Its actually pretty stable. Its recommended by braxman and is now available on the bra 3 phone!

sêkwêstkwân ᓭᑫᐧᐢᑎᑳᐧᐣ 1w ago

If you're in canada public mobile has no Kyc. Just let me get you a link and I get a buck!

sêkwêstkwân ᓭᑫᐧᐢᑎᑳᐧᐣ 1w ago

I love the Ubuntu touch. It has super powers never allowed by big phone.