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https://pinboard.in/ is a thing that would work great on Nostr: it's personal and social at the same time. You collect links that interest you and add comments for yourself, but with enough people doing that it creates a hivemind of potentially interesting content.

The only requirement is that it is blazingly simple and fast for managing your stuff.

I've 'pinned' over 26,000 links in pinboard over the years: https://pinboard.in/u:rabble/

I think the trick is the product structure around it. Pinboard is a replacement for del.icio.us ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicious_(website) ) which ironically enough pinboard years latter acquired.

The trick with both is really good browser integration, via a bookmarklet/browser extension. Then add to that a social layer which made discovery and sharing easy. Plus the creators Joshua and Maciej are in themselves pretty big old bloggers, so they had an audience of fans to start using it.

In case you haven't read it, Maciej's blog has amazing essays. https://idlewords.com/

I totally think we could make a pinboard site in Nostr, the tech is easy. The getting folks to use it and making the flow very easy would be more tricky. I think if you added each page you pinn'ed to a personal RAG enhanced LLM then you do some super interesting things. If you used one of the open source LLM's like Mistral/Deepseek/Llama you could do it in a privacy preserving way.

Any, it's a good idea.

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Does pinboard do web archiving as well? If I remember correctly it does not. So paywalls and linkrot are still issues...

We're decentralizing the Wayback Machine with a p2p network of unstoppable web archives. Hop in.

Pinboard does archiving if you pay the extra fee.

I don't understand how people think they can provide web archiving without charging. All I wanted was a service that archived pages on my behalf for a reasonable (i.e. very cheap) price.

And then they could make those pages public and combine payments from multiple sources in order to keep the archive alive, so more popular pages would be easier to keep archived for everybody.

You're right - nobody can provide archiving without charging (at least not without a hidden cost _somewhere_, including censorship).

In the system my company is building, you would either bring your own hosting (in your closet, on your desktop, whatever), or pay a cloud provider for the same. Our stack is open source.

We've run the numbers and it looks like you'll be able to do a _lot_ of archiving for quite cheap.

Then once n individuals are paying for their own archives, they can opt to network together over a peer-to-peer network to share their archives with eachother (or perhaps even charge for access to some of them)

Might also make sense to extend it with a web archiving component that stores the website contents either as webarchive or pdfs.