What is most important for you?
Freedom or security?
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What is security without freedom? Security should enable you to practice your freedom, otherwise security is not security, it is enslavement. "Secure as long as..."
Well said.
I mean security can be used as a pretext to reduce freedom.
Where to place the cursor between both?
You might want more cameras to protect your freedom of property for example.
I don't think these things are at the opposite ends of a spectrum.
I just think security is something you must build for yourself and not expect it as a god given right.
You have the freedom to build walls, protect yourself and protect others.
So you think that states should not get involved in citizens' security, but that citizens' should secure themselves?
I think that state getting involved in other people's security just causes more inequality, especially when done from higher levels. Smaller communities can have better solutions.
Of course, we must have a balance in this case, but I just wanted to throw in that maximum freedom does not mean minimum security, but I do believe that maximum state security does mean minimum freedoms.
Another concrete example is cars limited to a certain speed
That's a good one. Different countries have different limits, does it make one safer than the other?
Maybe limits as a concept introduces security, or does it introduce a false sense of security?
I think reckless drivers should be punished, but arbitrary rules tend to be gamed and those cause unexpected after effects. For example, it is common in the UK for people to slow at speed cameras and then take off once past. This is erratic driving and does not achieve the intended purpose as far as I can tell.
For those who get caught, they must attend a course at cost, and it is clear that it is a money making machine more than a reformative thing.
Also speeding is treated with the same punishment as stopping in a yellow box which can be at best irritating for people who must wait for you to clear away, but it is hardly dangerous. It is very easy to make this mistake when there is traffic too.