#Primal is KYC garbage now... use another client. Amethyst on Android. Damus on iOS although I don't use it.

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lmao just lie

Took that screenshot a few days ago when I tried to set up. Others said it was new feature. Check my feed for original post.

ummm, yes. Its powered by strike, an exchange. They aren't going to sell you or custody your bitcoin without knowing the bare minimums by law.

Do you really think TikTok folks care? They put there whole life online.

Strike is KYC garbage also. I'm getting off it also atm.

Some Tik Tokers will care if it's pointed out to them. Others perhaps most will not.

Strike is by far the best place to buy bitcoin. I don't even feel it is a competition.

It's very slick yes. But at what cost? Your liberty is being farmed for convenience.

Kyc bitcoin absolutely has a place.

You can always withdraw over lightning to a bitcoin wallet, mix it, whatever.

Personally, I keep a strike acct for dca purchases and inbound zaps. I tend to spend the kyc at bitrefill, paying friends, etc..

90% of my bitcoin is mined.

It is ludacris to believe the only way to get bitcoin for most people is bisq, other p2p, or a non kyc atm, or something else.

The best way is to minimize it, then use forward privacy on the kyc, while keeping it segmented.

Sure it will have a place. I'm trying to bring awareness to those who care that it comes at the cost of your privacy. If you're not on board no problem. My main point was to make it known to newb sign ups. As you say many won't care or even know to care but in this case it's about touch points. They'll care when/if they get burned.

Zapped you non-kyc from own node. 🀘

That's the way πŸ™

Oh some people have also mentioned they have actually not been able to withdraw. It was in a post on my feed a few days ago.

Interesting. That's an issue, for sure.

I use my own node to zap. Been testing inbound for zaps too, but still need a few more channels, too many failures inbound.

Is Strike KYC? If yes then its the worst place to buy BTC.

It's slick design wise and works well I think that's what he means but yeah KYC also.

Get over it. P2P bitcoin is incredibly rare and hard in big quantities. I'm not buying a few bitcoin from a dude on the street corner with cash, sorry.

Cool. I get it from my post office with cash. I make a KYC free account on Bull Bitcoin then use cash to buy vouchers, then use Bull to buy BTC and send to wallet. Whos buying from a random dude on a street corner?

KYC free is simple.

Another way is KYC free ATMs. You just need to know where to find them. Many dont ask for ANYTHING.

Those are getting rare

Very rare yes!

I have one, but it has about a 23% premium. Pass.

That is a myth, you can easily buy hundreds of thousands of dollars worth no KYC using Bisq

Pass.

Bisq blows anymore. so buggy, bloated, slow, and I certainly don't trust some random dude for arbitration on a 100k buy.

You don't buy it all at once of course. But in the timespan that it takes for a KYC buy to "settle" you can accumulate a 100k buy. Slick UX is for newbs, once you're past that stage it's a pretty shallow reason imo

Who said anything about slick ui? I didn't.

I said that bisq sucks. Old Java codebase, is terribly slow, uses mostly single threaded, many payment methods need kyc anyways, low trusted escrow/mediation.

For 50 or 100 bucks, sure. But I have robosats for that.

There is zero chance or reason I would use bisq for large sums of USD.

Then what would you use?

Also #bisq2 is in development

learn Vexl

Oh wow, p2p. Lol... and yes I realize I can use a VPN. But still.

What country are you in?

US

Is there an APK option or fdroid?

kind of hard to follow the custody once it its on lightning, right?

Not exactly, because sats in the lightning network is off the main timechain, the layer 1 known as #Bitcoin , but they still have all KYC data once those sats/bitties are brought back #Onchain.

I appreciate Primal's UX on mobile but this really goes against our values.

A ton of newbies will download Primal and put their real name, address and so on.

nostr:npub16c0nh3dnadzqpm76uctf5hqhe2lny344zsmpm6feee9p5rdxaa9q586nvr will you be offering an alternative wallet for those who don't want to submit their personal data?

STOP NORMALIZING FUCKING KYC

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But those don't include a way to set up lightning.

They suck you in with convenience. It's how all surveillance tech is sold to us. Freedom ain't free or easy.

Baby steps for the newbies.

Are you looking for Non custodial lighting wallets Phoenix, Minibits, Zeus, (depends on you experience) , or a way to get NON KYC sats? Some people buy via KYC, and then put them through something like Wasabi or Samurai check out nostr:npub1rxysxnjkhrmqd3ey73dp9n5y5yvyzcs64acc9g0k2epcpwwyya4spvhnp8 over on you tube for a plethora of #Bitcoin #Tutorials hot wallets, cold wallets, lightning wallets, nodes, even #NOSTR

I was mainly complaining about KYC for primal wallet creation. On my own little mission there! Not quote sure what came over just has the stench of govt ya know πŸ™„ using wallet of satoahi now which seems good!

Oh okay... WoS is no longer an option for those of us in the United States

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Just make up the details and use throwaway email? This ain't rocket science πŸ˜‰

My real name is not Tigs Nostr btw.

Also got given a LNadress of tigs@primal.net

This is possible until it isn't. Eventually they will make you verify your email. My prediction. It's an insidious game of incremental change. So slow you don't notice it. Like cooking a lobster. Feels nice and comforting til it's not anymore.

Yeah I did verify my email, but it's a dummy and just needs 6 chars.

I agree with the incremental changes over time.. but I'll just withdraw my sats before they have to do extensive KYC. Plenty of LN wallets in the sea!

There's tradeoffs with every solution for holding your Bitcoin. Ultimately you want your own full node, with LN, and a few channels etc. But that's not for everyone or within their skill set. Horses for Coarses (spelling)

Sure zi wanted to raise awareness of it. Most will not follow it but some will.

Sime people have mentioned to me they have not been able to remove their sats. Unsure of much more than this technically speaking.

Hmm.. I've been able to zap people np. Only deposited 1000. But that would suck if you have hundreds of k in sats and withdrawing did take more extensive KYC.

Only takes a few code changes and the Strike API won't fulfill your request.

Ah ok.. Well I wont keep more than 1000 sats on it anyways but I do see your concern and I think you're in the right for sure. Maybe use Lnaddress.com and legend.lnbits.com ?

Also true KYC is drivers license, ssn, passport, and getting your photo taken while holding a piece of paper.

Give it time.... lobsters and pots like I said.

Unfortunate.

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