What alternatives that exist today? If you say rather, “fuck that let’s go build better things” then I’m with you. But who’s working on a truly open mobile platform?

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GrapheneOS, CalyxOS are two great alternatives that exist and work today. There are others but IMO these two are the best.

No. They both use closed source firmware blobs.

CalyxOS straight up pings google and other servers. It’s a shitcoin.

? MicroG is optional. GrapheneOS has optional google services.

MicroG has various levels of pinging google servers you can toggle on or off.

I’ll go all in on an effort that is all in… open from the hardware up... no reliance on propriety firmware blobs. All these projects just change the security model a bit. They are not truly open source platforms.

How you liking Windows 11 these days? I mean no point whatsoever using Linux unless you can run it on something other than proprietary Intel, AMD, ARM chips right?

But hey you do you man 😀

Something about “don’t let perfect be the enemy of better” something like that?

My model is that all my data is compromised anyway. I use Linux because it sucks a bit less than windows and macOS, not for security reasons. But I get what your saying and you’re right. I’m just frustrated at the state of things.

I hear ya, it is frustrating.

coreboot.org is a good thing

libreboot.org also

Tbf GrapheneOS looks like a good project… but my security model is such that I might as well just accept all my data is being pinged to some server and not waste any time kidding myself otherwise or potentially falling into a honeypot.

It is the best project we have right now.

CalyxOS & LineageOS they both share the same issue and they both always use multiple Google services too while giving them privileged access even if users don't use microG. It would be wrong to imply they don't use Google services. microG is of course an implementation of Google services. GrapheneOS doesn't use Google services by default.

To clarify further they always use Google services even without microG. They use Google for connectivity checks, network time, attestation key provisioning, SUPL, DNS fallback (LineageOS only), PSDS (Pixel 6 and 7), eSIM activation and more enabled by default.