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What crime did she commit? If you're gunna say obstruction, watch the video, there are dozens of cars passing her.

Do you honestly believe when I'm saying "obstruction" I mean that she's obstructing traffic? Is that a serious take?

I already posted this once I guess you didn't read it the first time so maybe you should take the time to read it aloud to yourself so you can grasp the content better.

If the car:

• Blocks their vehicle

• Prevents execution of a warrant

• Impedes surveillance or pursuit

• Creates a safety hazard during an operation

Then the legal characterization changes.

At that point, federal agents do have authority to act, because they are no longer addressing “parking” — they are addressing interference.

Possible lawful actions:

• Ordering the driver to move the vehicle

• Temporarily detaining the driver

• Physically moving the vehicle if necessary

• Using force proportional to the need to clear the obstruction

The authority comes from:

• Federal obstruction statutes

• Implied authority to carry out lawful duties

• Officer safety doctrines

They still would not issue a parking citation, but they can neutralize the obstruction.

Here's more information that you could be looking up all on your own but I guess you need your hand held.

Criminal obstruction:

Intentional or knowing conduct that materially interferes with a law enforcement officer’s lawful duties, beyond mere speech or presence.

Impeding surveillance:

Purposeful acts that materially disrupt or expose lawful law enforcement monitoring activities.

Impeding pursuit:

Conduct that physically or practically prevents officers from lawfully chasing or apprehending a suspect.

This is all just out there and you can read I think so? I guess you should be taking the time to do that instead of throwing a hissy fit cause you don't like that some dumb lady got killed? I don't know? Maybe you just really like immigrants or something?

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AU9913 3d ago

Do you honestly believe when I'm saying "obstruction" I mean that she's obstructing traffic? Is that a serious take? (No)

If the car:

• Blocks their vehicle (see video, does not apply)

• Prevents execution of a warrant (not applicable)

• Impedes surveillance or pursuit (not applicable)

• Creates a safety hazard during an operation (not applicable)

Possible lawful actions:

...

• Using force proportional to the need to clear the obstruction (shooting the driver is not proportional)

Criminal obstruction:

Intentional or knowing conduct that materially interferes with a law enforcement officer’s lawful duties, beyond mere speech or presence.

^^^

This point right here disproves your whole argument even-if she was blocking the road.

makeheroism 3d ago

In your opinion.

Your opinion doesn't matter. You know the only person whose opinion really matters in this case?

The agents that were there.

Wanna know why?

It's up to their discretion.

You just don't like that. And that's fine. But it doesn't change anything.

makeheroism 3d ago

Also I really like the cherry picking you did to make your point as if your entire argument wasn't also made moot by this-

"Impeding surveillance:

Purposeful acts that materially disrupt or expose lawful law enforcement monitoring activities.

Impeding pursuit:

Conduct that physically or practically prevents officers from lawfully chasing or apprehending a suspect."

This combined with officer discretion pretty much just ends this entire debate.

Those agents clearly believed that she and her wife were preventing one or both of those things and they needed to be removed from the equation. They were told to exit the vehicle. They didn't. At which point they attempted to flee after committing what was then criminal impeding/obstruction.

It's just completely pointless to talk about any of this because you're going to see what you want to.