Nostr Web Client

What a bright year ahead!!! ☀️ ☀️ ☀️

PS Be the guy on the right.

Run your node ;)

The only thing annoying about running a node is the last time I checked:

@start9 is only accessible through tor and tor and orbot on iOS are a pain in the ass. Also annoying for say entering an onion address into the Bitwarden password manager.

And

@umbrel can be connected to because of Tailscale but you have to trust google with your vpn and also things like vaultwarden won’t work on Umbrel because it can’t/wont run as https

Maybe these problems have been fixed but my “servers” haven’t served much of anything in months.

But also I’m an idiot normie and not some super strath network hacker.

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Discussion

aivii 1y ago

Use tailscale or zerotier

nobody 1y ago

See my comment above. What about being forced into https but you can’t do https so things just don’t work? Also I tried zerotier and it’s basically a more annoying version of Tailscale. But thank you for the suggestion. I’m sure people can get it to work, just I can’t 😂😂😂

inpc 1y ago

Tailscale freaked my out, it’s like KYC your node. Apparently there’s an open source thing called Headscale. @Alby what do you think of that? I’m using my Umbrel and the hub relatively well but these things worry me and I’m not an expert in cybersecurity.

nobody 1y ago

Someone tried to tell me Headscale is proprietary but I thought Tailscale was the google proprietary and Headscale was an open source version that never really got developed (though I’ve heard some people recently got it working so maybe they’re still developing it)

inpc 1y ago

Yeah see this is where it gets hard for the non-techy user. We're well into the age of mistrust. Sure I can 'verify the code' however, code may as well be in Arabic (or any other language I don't understand).

aivii 1y ago

How does that work? Tailscale only sees that there are certain devices connected and not what is being sent/recieved by the device, no?

inpc 1y ago

To use Tailscale you need to log into their services, preferably (for them) via g00gle. Luckily I had an old Github burner account I signed up with, otherwise I'd be KYC'ed via g00gle (instead choosing m1cr0s0ft?!).

It feels messy, I'm sure while many here try their best with privacy, the smallest misstep, that the average user may not comprehend, undoes everything.

aivii 1y ago

I use it with a burner github account too.

While there's no 100% clean method, I will stiil look into headscale as an alternative. Thanks for highlighting that.

inpc 1y ago

I don't know to be honest, this is where things start going over my head! Maybe I should forget having a relay until I understand what I'm doing...

René Aaron 1y ago

You don't need to setup any VPN / TOR but instead use an encrypted NWC connection using a relay as the "mailbox" between your wallet (e.g. Alby Go) and your node.

inpc 1y ago

Thanks. So many Nostr thingies… Already have Go so I’ll get rid of the Tailspin.

Dan 1y ago

Alby Hub can be used on-the-go via the mobile app "Alby Go". Alby Go doesn't need direct inbound access to your node, it communicates with it over Nostr. No VPN. No Tor. Just Nostr.

deleted 1y ago

Really?! Is that why it’s so much faster than Zeus?

Dan 1y ago

likely!

deleted 1y ago

As a mathematician, I appreciate your word choice.

Catesby 1y ago

Also as a mathematician, your reply ‘prompted’ me to have a chat with the ai on word choice/certitude ratio:

High Certainty

Yes (100%)

Very Likely (95-97%)

Almost Certain (93-94%)

Moderate Certainty

Highly Likely (90-92%)

Likely (85-89%)

Probably (80-84%)

We Believe (75-79%)

Uncertainty

Chances About Even (50-54%)

Probably Not (45-49%)

We Doubt (40-44%)

Low Certainty

Unlikely (35-39%)

Chances are Slight (30-34%)

Little Chance (25-29%)

Improbable (20-24%)

Very Low Certainty

Highly Unlikely (15-19%)

Almost No Chance (10-14%)

deleted 1y ago

This makes me the happiest boy.

Dan 1y ago

just wanted to add, your Nostr clients all interact with Hub the same way. Just using Nostr wallet connect (NWC) so zapping is also fast and 1click without any direct network access required

StellarStoic 1y ago

Tor is perfectly fine and simple to use for privacy what our home server need the most.

If you think tor is hard to use, just wait what hurdles we will have when they offer us clearnet solutions which are coming in future release (start9)

nobody 1y ago

If you’re saying this is as good as it gets, then I’m saying it doesn’t get good enough 😂

StellarStoic 1y ago

For now it's what we've got, but we'll see what future brings.

I miss clearnet for my home server purely for setting up Lnbits and btcpay server on my clearnet domains.

I can't even use a nostr:nprofile1qqsz9qvwcv7cq78xf9jt2cwg8xm5gvljxu2494l4h44tptejtfulg2gpzdmhxue69uhhwmm59e6hg7r09ehkuef068g9pe because it doesn't like tor.

Clearnet solutions will definitely be welcomed but I don't know how the ease of use and privacy will be combined.