Deport them all and let God sort it out.
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this sentence reads so wrong in my opinion
Does it? They keep telling us that they can't deport anyone because it's so hard to figure out which ones. Oh, it's so complicated and they're so many and it take so long to decide...
Well, then, just deport all of them. Nobody without citizenship or permanent residency has a right to be here, and anyone misbehaving should have those immediately revoked.
I am so tired of hearing BUT THE PAPERWORK IS SO HARD AND THERE ARE SO MANY FORMS AND WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE LAWS AND...
Shut up. You have only one legitimate job: common defense. Do it.
Well, it depends if you view it through The National Lense, or The Liberal Lense.
If you view it through it the national lense, anyone who isn't a member of The National family by blood, heritage, or adoption is not a member of The Nation, if you view it through The Liberal Lense then anyone who has not gone through the legal process, as an individual to acclimate themselves to the culture at large, and respect the host nations well being by being a respectful citizen.
In any case I think in most cases most Arabic people who believe in the Islamic religion ought to be deported since they do not appear to respect The German People's as a Host Nation.
ECHR rules are designed to ensure you can't deport even if you want to.
We wrote the rules. Rewrite them.
The un-elected (by the public) European Commission writes the legislation that the elected European parliament votes on. It can also respond to external proposals (by saying no). The EU strips sovereignty from member states.
https://commission.europa.eu/law/law-making-process/planning-and-proposing-law_en
What if you are on the naughty lis because of wrongthought?
Is it not better to just abolish borders and let everyone in and let God to sort it out?
Let them in and then shoot them?
Why is shooting so popular these days?
it is cheap
in Germany?
in every country ... Violence is the easiest means in many societies, and that is very sad and annoying
and society is spoiled
People are starting to realize that the government’s of this world can’t actually control things as well as we all thought. As more and more people start to realize that reality the lid is going to come off on all the conflicts the local regime put the kybosh on under threat of coming down on anyone that gets out of line with both boots. We’ve all lost sight of the basic reality that at a certain point people want different things which is fine but enough people want everyone else to help pay for what they want or to live life the way they do that violence is inevitable. The threat of overwhelming violence on the part of the government paused it but that only lasts so long. Will it run out tomorrow? Next year? Next decade? Next century? Depends on where you are. And none of us get to control when enough people in our area have hit that point that violence becomes inevitable.
The original borders didn't emerge by chance... 😂
And most of those claiming not to be tribal are lying their asses off for brownie points.
Yep. Turns out people don’t like being forced into a polity with those they consider Other. Whatever the relative merits of their criteria for making that determination. At this point I’m willing to call that a permanent part of the human condition in the people that have it. One that isn’t going away. It’s one of the human natures that has always and will always exist.
Not by a chance.
How could you rule people that are united and do not have enemies.
That'll become obvious one things start slipping...
Yes. As faith in government abilities and the worth of people’s money continue to decline violence will increase for a variety of reasons.
I’d support abolishing borders with the caveat that right to discriminate and not let outsiders become integrated into your local community is also a right that the members of the community get to exercise at their own discretion for any reason they choose. I mean all of it. The doctors can decide not to treat you. The stores can decide not to sell to you. The roads paid for by members of the community, to include local taxation can be closed to you though with that I’d add the proviso that you would not be obliged to pay in. It’s also not immediately clear to me why someone gets to move to a community and immediately get the vote. Whether that person moved 75 miles or 7,500 miles.
If we’re talking about communities being forced to accept outsiders it might be that blowback is a serious possibility and it might be that nobody likes who the blowback is going to be aimed at.
Read Hans Hermann Hoppe, in his writing he explains an idea called Physical Removal in which the community excludes unwanted elements from society.
Essentially people with different viewpoints, ideology, beliefs, religion, race, etc. will naturally form their own capability communities.
Yes, and a dozen here and there with compatible culture moving in isn’t the same as say tripling the population of a county in 30 years. Whether the cultures are compatible or not that’s still a shock on the system.
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I am too lazy to argue.
Do you still pay taxes for the roads to be maintained?
Yes but if it’s all funded by taxes from the local community I’d argue they still have the right to exclude people who haven’t been paying local taxes if they exempt those people from having to pay going forward. Taxes get iffy on this stuff. In the absence of tax funded roads the property rights would be more easily assigned.
I’d also argue that tax funded roads, police, schools and medical care are all welfare programs and would need to end before abolishing borders.
I don't think that's a good idea. Especially when the guest people have a mission from God to change the religion and culture of the host society.
If the refugees had been arriving, one by one, and been background checked before being granted asylum (as used to be the case), I'd be sanguine about it.
But they gave everyone from entire countries blanket subsidiarity-protection, so they can just revoke that. Arrive as a group. Leave as a group.
I wish you never were on the other side of this equation.
Believe me, it’s freaking hard even when you have a job and in theory all the security and you don’t really run away from anything.
Yet you still meet someone that thinks you inferior because you have different skin colour, were born 20km to the right of imaginary line, have funny accent or other stupid reason.
Imagine now you are running for your life and you will surely be dead when ‘deported where you came from’ because someone thinks you inferior.
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God doesn't get involved in deportations, only government does.
Your current government might decide to deport you for asking too many questions, and keep the people you don't like.
That's what they do, now. The borders are only defended against "right-wingers". They are not allowed in.
Suddenly, the borders work. Magic.
If it was all private property they wouldn't be allowed it invade it in the first place.
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Imagine having foreign guests at your home, besides your family, feeding them, treating them well. What do you do if one of the guests attacks, rapes or murders a member of your family?
YOU FUCKING KILL HIM AND THROW THE REST OF THEM OUT OF YOUR HOME
Same is true on a bigger scale for a city or country. If you are a guest, behave like a guest should behave. Otherwise accept the consequences.
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