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My lovely wife nostr:nprofile1qqsfg2spq35fak0xfwjn5lfumpn59h0ka4n8n3yux3d9fnlegyq9pxspr9mhxue69uhhyetvv9ujuumwdae8gtnnda3kjctv9ucg730w has just had an abysmal experience with lightning and nostr. She had ln.tips set up a long time ago, which she was unable to access because when signing in to telegram she was prompted to use her number, which did not being her to her old account. Luckily I set up lndhub with nostr:nprofile1qqsrf5h4ya83jk8u6t9jgc76h6kalz3plp9vusjpm2ygqgalqhxgp9gpr3mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumt4w35ku7thv9kxcet59e3k7mgpzemhxue69uhkkmr0vd4k2mn8vyh8xmmrd9skcqguwaehxw309ahx7um5wghxy6t5vdhkjmn9wgh8xmmrd9skctylktc and was able to access her old ln.tips account. I told her to get primal on my way out the door to head back to work. Naturally she downloaded and made a new account on primal because she was unaware it was even a nostr client and thought it was just a wallet. Then she transferred her sats there. Although she had to leave around 500 sats behind in ln.tips because... Lightning architecture. Then texting back and forth I explained she should have used her existing key to sign into primal. So I said just send me your sats and sign it and you can sign in with your existing nsec. She did, but again had to leave 100 sats behind.... Except now, her email is associated with a primal wallet that's not her actual account. This whole experience involves several apps, friction, pain points, terrible UI/UX , lost time, lost sats. This shit has GOT to improve. Adoption is going nowhere until it does. Can someone help associate her current email with her actual nostr account?

It’s another good reminder that we’re all beta testers and we need to keep that in mind when inviting others.

I suspect that, long term, most users will gravitate to custodial solutions because there will be folks like Milan who can assist. Sovereign lightning is frustrating but it still exists in consumer apps because we want to believe it’s for everyone.

Just like how we no longer use the L1 chain for everyday payments, I suspect that over time we’ll no longer use self-sovereign lightning and instead use custodial lightning and federated ecash. Probably only exchanges and federations will use sovereign lightning.

It feels a bit like we’re in this in-between place because federated ecash isn’t yet a viable mainstream service.

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