Nostr Web Client

I think there's some confusion around this because of abuse of terms.

When people talk about data harvesting on other platforms its *insanely invasive*. Things like tracking every click you make in the app, your search history, tracking every piece of content you view and for how long.

Most nostr clients today have none of this. All people can collect are public actions that you have already consented to. nostr data is transparent so you know what you're putting out there.

Not to mention with giftwraps, relay group chats, encrypted group chats... we are beginning to hide a lot of this stuff.

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Moon 11mo ago

Thanks for this additional detail. I think we should be finding similar and clear ways to explain this to normies as well!

shipstr 11mo ago

c'mon man, don't tell the secrets of nostr! people will be scared that it's too free or something

Derek Ross 11mo ago

This. There are different degrees of tracking and harvesting data. One is extremely invasive. One is following public data.

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ABH3PO 11mo ago

People love critizing what they don't understand, if only they heard that bob Dylan song 😛

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wolfpy 11mo ago

Thanks @jb55 I was not aware of this and assumed that data harvest would be insane on Nostr naturally. Maybe some more discussion on this would be nice

jb55 11mo ago

yeah it's kind of subtle until you dig into the details. the data I saw being collected when working at startups was horrifying. complete playback of the cursor during browser sessions, etc.

Jordan Eskovitz 11mo ago

What about on the relay side? Are they typically collecting/tracking less, more, or different data than clients?

mjsw 11mo ago

lol beat me to the question, sorry about the duplication

mjsw 11mo ago

How much insight do the relays have? I guess IP address and a rough timeline of requested & pushed content associated to the IP? Probably not nearly as bad as the classic data harvesting model.

jb55 11mo ago

they can see what threads users are reading based on queries is probably the most invasive thing. the queries reveal a lot of what a user is doing on the network. this is the same with anything though.

τέχνη 11mo ago

It’s really in the best interest of relays to make everything as encrypted as possible. Public data is just more liability and responsibility on them.

Companion 11mo ago

This is a great distinction. Exfiltration of metadata is different than OSINT.