This is just statism and coercion to spend other people’s money on things deemed “necessary” by central planners. This is why people are “triggered”. These are failed systems that lead to a misallocation of capital and, in many cases, a justification of historic terrors in the name of the greater good. This is simply postmodernism and stuff we need to be moving away from, not toward.
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I don’t understand the alternative in the real world in 2024.
And what about the piece where I said more checks and politicians and also having a balanced budget while doing this?
Because today’s political parties have forever political with unrelenting power, and have a blank check book. This would look a lot different with a balanced budget and terms limits
Forever politicians*
Many Bitcoiners, myself included, believe your line of thinking is based on a false premise that we need a government at all. Many of us believe that the emergent order will organize things on its own. Maybe that ends up in some sort of leadership hierarchy, aka a government. But that hierarchy should not have the ability to tax people without their consent. For me, that is a total no go. People should voluntarily fund what they want, and society should be birthed from that. Taking money from people involuntarily and spending it on things that are deemed “necessary” by a group of central planners is totally unacceptable. That is why there is a conflict with progressivism.
ya this is a key point. even something like ' but i just want to tax Elon and his friends ' is a part of the problem. its simple 'but i want to use the immense power of the fed govt to do right' all over again. disenfranchising the central authorities, which is the point of btc if im not mistaken, means that you wouldnt be able to steal value from anyone, rich or poor. btc is truly revolutionary in its scope, equating it to modern US progressivism is like too small beans to bucket together. Pura vida, friend. i do enjoy your job, just consider changing the name 🙂
Point is, these are terribly challenging things to think about and implement and take time and rich discussion, and breaking out of paradigms (while we are still in them!)
Cheers 🤙🏻
I don’t think eliminating involuntary tribute is very challenging to think about. Again, this is why you are “triggering” Bitcoiners. There is just an incompatible ideology between progressivism and the implementation of a stateless money.
Appreciate the discussion though 🤙
I’m just referring to basically a better and more enhanced gold standard without capture and government conterfitting.
Citizens would be more connected and holding govt accountable through taxation.
Without this, we go back to kingdoms reliant on the goodwill of the rich. I’m not crazy about that
We are going to disagree on any justification for involuntary taxing. We don’t really know how things will emerge once a citizenry is freed from having to pay a central entity a portion of their earnings and wealth. If rich people want to horde their wealth, or direct it somewhere they prefer in a free market, that is their prerogative.