The urge to wipe my Pixel 7 Pro and install Graphene OS for the first time in several years is rising...

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I did it!

i ran Graphene OS several years ago and CyanogenMod for the better part of a decade πŸ˜† i just feel like now i'd miss too many google app/services.

Yes - to be clear, I didn’t wipe much because it isn’t my main phone - so wasn’t a trade off for me πŸ˜‚

I'm on Calyx rather than Graphine but I think there is an alternative for everything I have looked for apart from mobile payment. Aurua and Graphine play store sandboxing mean you can have "normal" apps and you can isolate access / force them over VPN in a separate profile etc.

I missed some Google services but also enjoyed the privacy

i would miss Google Pay a lot. i use it several times a week.

Also paid apps from play store. i use Niagara launcher and the only way to buy is through play store.

Also happened on a few other apps...

Some food apps like Chick FIL A also don't work. So there are tradeoffs for sure.

Do you recommend pixel? I’m on an iPhone but I’ve done some research and could get a Pixel 6a for $150

Do it. Realize it’s not going to be the same as your iPhone and you get used to it’s use flow. There are a ton of apps to replace the iPhone ones. You can pick defaults for a lot of things like messages, photo album, camera etc

Ok, thanks for the advice. I’ll get my photos and data in order and give it a try within a few weeks⚑️

Its tough for a week to get used to it but that's the OS rather than the phone. No complaints after 2 years of Pixel 5. I would say the non a versions are closer to IPhone specs so 6,7 rather than 6a,7a.

Do you use an android operating system or something like graphineOS?

Graphene is Android ;)

I’ll have to look further into this - my Apple bubble has prevented me from keeping up with smartphone evolutions for the past decade 🀣

I guess my question should instead be, do most people use graphene or something like Android 13?

Graphene is Android 13 🀣

Graphene is based on the Android Open Source Project.

Just like Google's flavor, just like Samsung's flavor, etc.

I'm on Calyx OS

#grapheneOS is a hardened Android with focus on security and privacy

Good way to start is here:

https://grapheneos.org/

Thank you, I’ll check this out 🫑

absolutely. always buy Pixel. everything else is a shitcoin.

I'm on Calyx and in the same place. Just can't be arsed with swapping everything over so good excuse to get a new phone.

the fact that we have web installers now is kind of mind blowing. back in my day i had to fight with multiple bootlader drivers and command line utilities.

i used to have a tshirt that said:

fastboot oem unlock

Definitely it makes the installation easier.

To install #grapheneOS on my pixel, I used old style command-line install on Linux though. πŸ˜‰

Ive been on calxy for ages now. Dont really see a need to swap over to graphine.

I do like how graphine sandboxes most things though.

Write. Down. Npub.

Nsec would be more useful.

I mean, I can always shoot him his Npub if he looses that πŸ˜‚

πŸ«‚

What a guy. We could all use a friend like you.

He's a good dude.

I know if I needed my npub, you'd do the same, brother.

🀝🏻

πŸ’œβœŒοΈ

I run graphene🀝

i ran custom ROMs from 2010-2019. the only thing that's stopping me is Google Pay. i use that all of the time for mobile payments. ugh.

It absolutely can run Google. From my understanding, (when you enable it) it installs Google Play with extra steps that sandboxes each app + Play Services so that way the apps don't talk to each other and are off when you are not using the apps.

If you don't want to log in to Google, the Aurora store is an option, but theyve had a few issues recently and you likely won't get notifications on most apps. You could probably get some apps from the Amazon 3rd party app store

I think he means Google Pay, like for payments, not Play

Correct. Pay as in NFC payments. Graphene is not certified and therefore cannot use Google Pay and some banking apps.

Switch back to the plastic rectangles, it's a small price to pay. Eventually you'll be paying for everything with lightning anyway.

Does the NFC data change between payments, I wonder? πŸ€” Curious about the viability of coding an NFC card, like a Google based Bolt card πŸ˜‚

I use prepaid bitcoin giftcrds😜

Unfortunately it is so.

It's explained here by nostr:npub1gd3h5vg6zhcuy5a46crh32m4gjkx8xugu95wwgj2jqx55sfgxxpst7cn8c

https://discuss.grapheneos.org/d/475-wallet-google-pay

No GPay/Wallet cannot be made to work on GrapheneOS and is a limitation in so far as Google Pay/Wallet requiring full SafetyNet compliance. GrapheneOS can pass BasicIntegrity but the OS cannot pass ctsProfileMatch as that would require GrapheneOS to be whitelisted by Google. Google Pay/Wallet requires both.

Before the idea of bypassing the checks is brought up, as some other OSes or Root methods might allow, please read the following: https://nitter.net/freechelmi/status/1553326311854276608#m

Ahh, damn blindness to the L πŸ«₯. Thanks for clearing that up to me

Mobile payments - do you mean Google Pay? Or something else?

Do it. It is easy and you can find the important apps to download still.

Calyx has been a good daily driver but Graphene adding sandboxed Google Play makes it look more attractive than before

Yep, Calyxos is good but has been slow at security updates, plus Aurora is being a PITA at the moment.

Two years ago the advice was Graphine was too hard as a daily driver, but it looks to have improved massively in this respect.

I like the idea of multiple profiles as well (Calyxos is max 2).

I've got an itch to try Graphine out.

Just do it. Knowing that there is no one in Polo Alto spying on you is hugely freeing.

*Palo Alto

I am a happy CalyxOS user - it works great. For private SIM service look no further than silent.link - there is great interview here on Watchman privacy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Gd05WJG0J4

+1 for Silentlink

Did just that today, but the biggest challenge for me is to switch from iPhone

Same. I wonder though is it worth it? Better to hide in a crowd?

If you do with pixel 7 pro it would be nice to hear about it?

i did it. play store sandbox is the best of both worlds

I was just on their site. Been using LineageOS but might switch it up. Maybe pixel 6, but I'll probably end up putting it on the 2 😁