Physical infrastructure is cryptoanarchy’s missing layer. Digital tools enable coordination, but survival demands tangible networks: local trade hubs, currency alternatives, and autonomous services. Reliance on state-linked systems (banks, courts) creates vulnerabilities. A functional parallel society requires bakeries, clinics, and workshops—not just encrypted chat rooms. Decentralization fails without material independence.

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« They hated him because he spoke the truth ». «  and because he got dem fat zaps for it »

I couldn’t agree more!! After all we all exist in meatspace and we still need food and water. The harder question is how do we maintain the same level of freedom and decentralization that exists in the digital realm in the physical realm?

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Spot on! But given that most territories or should I say states are hostile to true freedom, how can this be achieved and defended without military conflict?

Gather in the shadows, evacuate upon first contact.

😂😂 freedom secret society

When the time is right, we start building.

88k is not the time.

I think build as we go, otherwise we over look possible pitfalls. We need trial and error periods to learn as we go and adapt. Waiting leads to a failure to plan, then it might be too late to adapt.

Haven't you been planning?

I think any capital deployed now should be minimal.

Proof of concepts only.

Establishing community where you can, in free or cheaply leased spaces.

Agree. Planning and iterating as you go. But don't wait for it to be perfect to start building.

Yeah you're right.

I think I'm probably just a little frustrated right now

Happens to us all. Keep on ticking along, block by block.

There is only chance we make it and turn people in to it

There will also be a need for specialized cyber security folks to go speak with directly for actual help when regular security measures have been breached. Tech will get better and better and the mass support systems are unable to keep up.

pay me in raw minerals.

gold, silver, rubies, emeralds, pearls… shells. … &’on & on.

it will sort itself. 𝔁

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Hi max! Nice to meet you 🤝 Exactly. Sovereignty isn’t just digital—it’s physical. A truly parallel society isn’t built on code alone; it needs boots on the ground, hands in the dirt, and independent systems that can withstand external pressures. Cryptoanarchy must extend beyond cyberspace into food, energy, and industry, or it remains a fragile illusion.

This is a really important discussion and I have so many thoughts that hopefully I can put together..

What has the state traditionally done to take out an adversary? Cut off their supply lines (whether its a mobile army or with a siege), completely wiped out their sources of sustenance (see the plains native Americans and the buffalo), or via control of centralized food systems (mostly under communism so far).

The physical realm is much overlooked by bitcoiners IMO. We should all be growing at least a portion of our food and not be completely reliant on centralized food systems.

Community and networks of resilience are key- these days that is typically via farmers markets and local co-ops. Barter is already commonplace at the markets we attend.

But the main thing is acquiring skills that can be used and applied anywhere if mobility is required. We all have our intrinsic areas of interest and skill, so finding like minded folks with other specialties and skillsets is key.

Being your own first responder and doctor is becoming more and more important with skyrocketing costs and "care" that often does more harm than good in hospitals/clinics.

Basic building skills, the ability to fix things, tinker and creatively problem solve will all be superpowers in a world that slowly becomes more tech and AI dependent.

Last thing is raising free range, slightly wild children that are outside the state's grasp. This is probably my most important job right now apart from providing fiat for the family.

The overall goal is building parallel systems that make the old ones obsolete since they are intrinsically better, provide more value, community, security and resilience.

There was a bunch more I thought of but can't remember- hopefully there is some food for thought there. Thanks for reading my ted talk lol

Strongly goes back to the idea that “citadels” ought to be decentralized and scattered among the populace vs standalone compounds/villages/towns.

Agreed. There are quite a few loosely affiliated communities currently being built and mutual assistance groups forming. The ones I've heard about are mostly in Texas and Tennessee. Another goal is to have outposts all along the way where people can resupply, recharge and spend time together

I like the freedom cell idea but I personally haven't done much engaging on there

Yep. There’s a nugget of an idea there, but it’s missing something to help galvanize organization.

Where is the safe space I can go to in order to protect myself once I’ve been targeted? #bitcoin needs to address this yet they are the ones attacking me ~

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