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I really don't get the deepSeek love. I haven't tried the full model, but the 70B parameter distill is trash. It isn't actually a reasoning model. It merely apes being a reasoning model. It is really good at sounding like it is reasoning but it hallucinates far more than the llama3.3 model on which it is based.

I suspect the full model has similar features. It is reassuring to users to see that it is attempting a rationalization but the actual output isn't that great.
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Logen 10mo ago

I have the same results with 70B! It’s hot garbage taking up too much space. I find better results with phi4 or llama 3.1

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Daniel Wigton 10mo ago

Yup. Give 3.1 or 3.3 instructions to show their work step by step and correct any mistakes and it does light years better. 3.3 is better even without a fancy prompt.