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Dude, they black bagged an American citizen while wearing masks, no ID, and no plates on their cars.

Who is breaking the law here? Not me.
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Bill Cypher 5mo ago đź’¬ 5

I already know where you are headed next, non citizens don't have rights.

Core tenet of the American legal system is innocent until proven guilty. Every single person detained by ICE should be treated with all rights due an American citizen until a court trial has proven they are not citizens. By law. Because they are innocent of illegally crossing the border until a guilty verdict has been rendered.

I don't believe in Americas laws, but somehow I still respect them more than you. I'll happily point out your hypocrisy when you come around telling me I'm the one not respecting the law.

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furio 5mo ago đź’¬ 1

Two scenarios:

1. You visit France, they ask how long you’ll be there, you say 1 week.

2. In the dark of night you smuggle your family into France.

In either scenario, 2 years later you have a job and don’t pay taxes* and the French ICE finds you.

How do you expect to be treated?

1. Be given cash, pre-paid debit cards, legal assistance, and amnesty?

Or:

2. Be deported.

It’s convenient that you say you “don’t believe in Americas laws” then criticize ICE for violating them. So it seems you want to choose “which laws” are important for LE to follow, and which ones should be ignored.

In this country you don’t get to be the arbiter of your select few laws. You can definitely scream at the internet all you want, but you may be more effective just watching ICE do their job, as congress directed granted them.

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saywhat 5mo ago

Maybe think of it as payback for hundreds of years of colonization?

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Bill Cypher 5mo ago đź’¬ 3

France isn't having their gestapo jump out and nab their own citizens off the streets and lock them up without offering them any contact with the outside world. America is.

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furio 5mo ago

Deflection. If you don’t have an argument, deflect.

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Badsamm 5mo ago

US citizens are being nabbed off the streets?

Where and why?

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Bill Cypher 5mo ago đź’¬ 2

Don't waste your breathe. You've been blocked.

I have better things to do than argue with a bootlicker who would support any government atrocity, you have jumped in my conversations to assert that you would multiple times.

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Green 5mo ago đź’¬ 1

"Bet! No need to keep it going, I see where you stand. Enjoy your echo chamber, fam. 🖤✌️"

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furio 5mo ago

There’s always bluesky. You only wanna hear one side, and have a liberal safe space.

I enjoy discussing things with people whose ideas seem crazy to me.

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furio 5mo ago

Blocking is a great demo of the power of this platform.

If you like your echo chamber and want to avoid hearing from people you disagree with, you have that right.

I’m here cuz Twitter decided to filter one half of the debate for me during the Biden years. That doesn’t work here.

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furio 5mo ago

“Innocent until proven guilty” in your context is incorrect.

Deportation is civil, and the burden switches to the immigrant to prove their right to remain in the US.

And my * for not paying taxes. Yes immigrants pay eleventy billion in taxes, I’ve heard all the claims. But the tax burden on a number of illegals is *significantly less* than the same number of law-abiding citizens. They don’t pay 100% of what they owe , and a large number don’t pay any.

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Bill Cypher 5mo ago đź’¬ 1

If this is truly civil with no burden of proof on the government then you just poofed away the rights of every citizen with that legal opinion. You can simply assert they aren't citizens, non citizens aren't promised any contact with the outside world while detained to acquire proof of citizenship, deport.

With that reasoning there is no purpose for most of our laws or legal opinions, the government is free to do anything they want to any person at any time.

If you support that bullshit you are truly a authoritarian asswipe.

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furio 5mo ago

“Support” or not, it’s the law