i think the idea was to be self sustainable? its like zapping dev, but its not enough, hence the grants. But if people were to put in 10% of their income into nostr, with tax exemptions etc i'm sure it would be more sustainable - but could lead to massive abuse of funds.

But I get what you mean. I was surprise that in the US and other large churches, pastor are millionaires - like wow lol. In the circle I am around, pastors are not paid, they are given phone and min travel allowances.

Interestingly, I'm a minority in a Muslim majority country where the majority race is socially constructed, religion is mandated upon the muslim race by constitution, there's religious police (literally) - like they would break into your house if there are unwed couples alone, and this majority race also need to pay their version of tithes, with a large gov't agency managing it, billions of funds, and makes large LP investments. And like everything in my country, it comes with major corruptions. On top of that, for the longest time, political parties were race-based. It cannot get anymore obv than that lol. A lot of the muslims in my country are nice people, a lot of liberal muslims, but the way religion is enforced into law can be at the point of madness and people don't realise it And this is not a convo i can have in my country openly as there is no freedom of opinions - there are laws that can literally silence you into mandatory detention camps. So i do understand where you are coming from when it comes to abuse and misuse of religions

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Amazing. I grieve for you. The part of the world you live in sounds worse than Orwell's 1984 and I can't imagine what advanced technological surveillance would do to your life. Its this level of bondage the left associates with all religions, even if they themselves were raised Christian. There is little justice in the world, and the depravity of what the west considers Christian religion has its share of injustice and corruption. To endure your circumstance makes our problems pale in comparison. In the end there is ample opportunity to serve God, and regardless of religion, with or without or forced compliance, the ultimate purpose should be peace and unity with our Father and doing his will with our hands.

Wow. Didn't know you lived in such a place.