Nostr Web Client

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HoloKat

Biggest complaints:

- Bitcoin echo chamber / not enough variety of content

- Difficult to use (my guess is these people have only tried it once 8 months ago lol..)

- Feeds not busy enough

- Toxic to web 3

My thoughts:

I bet we can solve a lot of these complaints just by asking people to select some topics to follow in onboarding and doing away with global entirely, or make it an optional thing. It seems global is responsible for turning people off because they see a bunch of spam / too much bitcoin content and or some other crap.

Topics solves some of this - they will see more focused content.

Better navigation UX can help - like browsing hashtags (see primal).

The network effects thing IS a challenge. Have to have users to create content and have to have content to attract users. Lists could help here. Even something as suggesting a list of RSS feeds that post on Tech news for example would be helpful. We already have RSS feeds for all sorts of stuff but they are difficult to surface.

Engaging with non-bitcoin content can help too (if you find it interesting, probably don’t want to force it).

Other than that I am not sure how to get more non-bitcoin users here other than creating a “safe space” for them where they don’t see that type of content at all. Whether that’s a bitcoin-free relay or a client that specifically mutes bitcoin terms via a pre-defined (user can still modify) mute list, or something else I can’t think of atm. nostr:note1j5cx3j3h7prnr46yyfa4akllsjach4qxhnzu0tu4pcgh3afcj0qs5rd0w8

nobody 2y ago

I’m beginning to think a lot of people’s issue with social media is people.

Watching culture evolve here is reinforcing that view.

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HoloKat 2y ago

Can you expand on this?

nobody 2y ago

Tribalism, binary thinking, hostile dialog, ad hominem, thought silo’ing…

Things like that. One of the things Nostr can’t (and shouldn’t try) to fix, is the breakdown of civil discourse and the poor education in debate and oratory.

I’m seeing a lot of the same old wars and fights starting to appear. Yeah, you can mute, etc. but I think people are overall exhausted (as a whole, not specific people I’m referring to) which is why we’ve seen social media usage continuing to decline.

The issue is social, and wherever they move, they bring those issues with them.

This does not detract from the qualities or value of Nostr philosophically imo. I’m just saying I’m beginning to sense the same exhausting and isolating vibe creeping in. That’s why I value people like you so much.

liminal 🦠 2y ago

This is where the "other stuff" kicks in. I dont think people will join nostr for its own sake. More likely they'll sign up for some service and then hey look, its compatible with all these other services. Twitter clients make a good town square for those specifically interested in nostr and surrounding topics. Otherwise, its about the interoperability and what lies on top rather than the protocol itself

nobody 2y ago

I like your positivity. ❤️

liminal 🦠 2y ago

Best/realest community I've been a part of so that drives my positivity 🫂

HoloKat 2y ago

We have zap.stream and people join that occasionally. Streams will show in snort too. Lots of interoperability coming I think

nobody 2y ago

Zap.Stream is no lie, one of the best designed and implemented non-Twitter-clone projects out there.

Is usefulness, potential, and market is immediately obvious, and it makes me more bullish on Nostr than a lot of other things do. Streaming is something everyone else simply does wrong, and I can honestly say “ Nostr fixes this” in that case.

paulo 2y ago

Seeing the same old fights arise is off putting for sure…

Only thing I can control, though, is how I react to these issues. Been really trying to not repeat old patterns. But that’s just me.

nobody 2y ago

The world changes one person at a time. But it can feel lonely.

I’m only expressing the issue. I agree with you. ❤️