I’m beginning to think a lot of people’s issue with social media is people.

Watching culture evolve here is reinforcing that view.

Finally some sanity instead of outright dismissal and cope. You are spot on. Still hate hashtags as a solution.

Nostr feels a bit like a High School clique which turns me away for stretches. The culture feels kinda forced and lame at times as well.

I know we're still super early but that's just my honest opinion.

I will say the variety of content is the biggest issue. A lot of content is bitcoin centered which is fine, but the main reason that content doesn't exist is because said people aren't generating that content.

Best thing would be to either mirror your content from X or IG to have that variety.

Whether or not global is a default on/off I think it is critical for freedom of speech and emergencies that global can always be enabled.

Being new to Nostr, I missed the heavy bitcoiner stuff or whatever it was. I just see a ton of potential for the protocol. However, talking to people about using Nostr, I get a lot of, "LOL, no." The FOSS crowd should be all over it, but they just dismiss it immediately. Community creation could fix that. They'd log in and see a feed of familiar content instead of the chaos of global. Personally, I like the randomness, but the reality is that a lot of people aren't looking for stuff outside their comfort bubble. Hashtags kind of work in the meantime. Searching and following them isn't obvious on some of the clients, though.

Would love to hear their actual reasons that weren’t some other sources than their experience .. I. Cant seem to hear anything from a place of reason on my end , even asking for an honest reason seems to make them mad?

We just need to #Zap diverse content.

When all the zaps go to the Lyns and Jacks for their Bitcoin/Nostr content. It’s a feedback loop that that’s the content wanted here.

The more diverse content gets zapped, the more word of mouth spreads.

**We should find a content creator every week, and Zap the living hell out of their wallet.**

Instead of a #Zapathon we need #Creatoroftheweek.

I think a real ostrich farmer posting daily could help the cause. Keeping my eyes out.

https://youtube.com/shorts/kf6pnUbg-3Y?feature=share

Have a section that has zero Bitcoin, too. they won't have as much fun but...

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Thoughts on using bertopic to tag the nostr events?

I would like to create some rss feed bots any idea on how to make one?

Usenet had (has?) a tried and true topics hierchy. In the days, I was subscribed to computer. lang. perl and rec. windsurfing.

Anyone could add her topic, just had to convince nodes to support it.

https://web.cortland.edu/flteach/methods/obj2/usenet-hier.html

Web 3 can suck a dick tho?

I just started and learning to navigate both Iris and Snort. I figured I would just bring over and share content that I was either sharing or consuming elsewhere in order to help add non BTC related content. It takes a little extra work to get started on NOSTR, but not that much. People generally only want convenience and comfort.

I think you still need global, yes it can be an echo chamber at times, but sometimes I just scroll through the global feed and find other stuff that interests me, but if there was a client that would start up new people with a list of hashtags to follow, that would be awesome

I for one don't mind that Nostr is dominated by Bitcoiners to start off with. Good in my eyes that they set the tone here.

Toxic to web3? Yeah... There's no fixing that. If you bring your web3 shitcoinery here you will be rightly criticized.

Obviously I cannot tell people what to do but if the first message written to a new nonbitcoiner user is “make sure to set up your lightning wallet for zaps so you can receive bitcoin!”

They’re going to leave. It’s a turnoff and sounds scammy. IMO it’s best to let them learn naturally, which will happen if they aren’t scared off the protocol immediately.

Web3:

Why would we embrace greater centralization risk, VC control, and a propensity to shitcoin?

This. Is. Nostr.

(Not wEb3.)

Being a Bitcoin echo chamber and an environment that's toxic towards Web3 is a feature, not a bug 😂

But seriously, growing Nostr into new and exciting content has been a goal for a long while.

Clients should show the global and some beautiful hashtags like #art or #photography or #nature and refine from there by gradually following the follow list and dropping the global depending on the size of the follow list.

Intéressante pistes à suivre

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Filtering feeds by language could help a lot for people onboarding.

I also find the content bitcoin-heavy. But that's what the people who have put in the effort want to talk about, so be it.

There's plenty of time and opportunity to shape this environment to everyone's liking.

I just started with nostr and this note of yours sums up my experience so far.. but then there's plenty of interesting discussion in the replies. So.. maybe content is ok afterall.

I don't have a problem with the difficult onboarding. I wonder if it selects for a more interesting user base? TBD 🤔

Speaking as someone who just came to the platform, I could not tell initially if there were a lot of people here or just very few. I did not want to follow all the people that were suggested to me in part because they all seemed overly bitcoin related. (I quite like Lightning btw, so one can slowly be converted :-)

But then not having followed a lot of people, my client was filtering the topics such as #scala. It took me some time to work out that I had to open the the filter on one client from close social network to the extended one (can’t remember quite which web client that was now) to see anything at all.

Then with the extended network set it still does not seem to be a lot of discussion on feeds like #scala or #RDF, well even less than on Mastodon which was not very busy either. So it helped when I worked out to add mostr.pub . Though I think tweets from there should be highlighted differently.

On an open social network one has to be able to see what the intermediary friends of friends are that led one to see a specific post, if only so that one remove some intermediaries that lead to too much spam, but also to understand how people are related.

I think whatever could help foster discussions would help people build communities more quickly.

They don't have to be non-Bitcoin users. It is probably best that they are Bitcoiners (or can be quickly converted); the sorting and economy building is a good thing.

But, it is possible to be a Bitcoiner that is not so obsessed with the thing that one talks about it 24/7 as if it is the single most interesting topic conceivable. There are a thousand other things that the crowd here could be talking about and should probably be promoted... like all of the liberty (libertarian) topics.

Pulling new users from libertarian spaces is actually our quickest pay off, most likely.

I don't really want to see the mainstream topics and culture imported over here, so I'm against the safe space idea. It's ok if the userbase is different from other platforms. It doesn't meet any goals if the userbase is just fanatical Bitcoiners.