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Biggest complaints:

- Bitcoin echo chamber / not enough variety of content

- Difficult to use (my guess is these people have only tried it once 8 months ago lol..)

- Feeds not busy enough

- Toxic to web 3

My thoughts:

I bet we can solve a lot of these complaints just by asking people to select some topics to follow in onboarding and doing away with global entirely, or make it an optional thing. It seems global is responsible for turning people off because they see a bunch of spam / too much bitcoin content and or some other crap.

Topics solves some of this - they will see more focused content.

Better navigation UX can help - like browsing hashtags (see primal).

The network effects thing IS a challenge. Have to have users to create content and have to have content to attract users. Lists could help here. Even something as suggesting a list of RSS feeds that post on Tech news for example would be helpful. We already have RSS feeds for all sorts of stuff but they are difficult to surface.

Engaging with non-bitcoin content can help too (if you find it interesting, probably don’t want to force it).

Other than that I am not sure how to get more non-bitcoin users here other than creating a “safe space” for them where they don’t see that type of content at all. Whether that’s a bitcoin-free relay or a client that specifically mutes bitcoin terms via a pre-defined (user can still modify) mute list, or something else I can’t think of atm. nostr:note1j5cx3j3h7prnr46yyfa4akllsjach4qxhnzu0tu4pcgh3afcj0qs5rd0w8

Being new to Nostr, I missed the heavy bitcoiner stuff or whatever it was. I just see a ton of potential for the protocol. However, talking to people about using Nostr, I get a lot of, "LOL, no." The FOSS crowd should be all over it, but they just dismiss it immediately. Community creation could fix that. They'd log in and see a feed of familiar content instead of the chaos of global. Personally, I like the randomness, but the reality is that a lot of people aren't looking for stuff outside their comfort bubble. Hashtags kind of work in the meantime. Searching and following them isn't obvious on some of the clients, though.

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Yeah it’s baffling to me why FOSS people are not here but at the same time you make a great point about them needing their bubbles.

We have people who spend more time taking about nostr on telegram than on nostr itself which I find sad and amusing. Obviously something needs to be fixed.

Gonna be a hot take, but telegram in the best messaging experience I’ve ever had. What works make me happy would be them opening the space to the backend properly.

I hate telegram. Spam every day. If we had private coms on nostr I’d rather use that.

A great example of YMMV. I haven’t had any spam. Thanks for sharing that.

I have my privacy settings pretty locked down. Only contracts can even see I’m online. I wonder if you have have different settings.

Rescuing newcomers from global asap might help the onboarding. I can only imagine how many just straight nope right out after seeing the global firehose 😅

Coming from Mastodon, I see the same reaction from people when they experience the federated feed for the first time.