Nostr Web Client

Paul

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This really is the worst. Instagram started the trend with their hideous "log in or else" flow. Then Twitter and reddit went to insanely privacy-hostile API changes instead of simply requiring a proof of work or anon payment. Even some major nostr relays seem to be doing Tor blocking now (damus? Not sure, but I get a ton of errors connecting to certain relays via Tor.)

Platforms have become so fearful of bots/spam/scraping (or rather pretend to be fearful, so as to justify blatantly commercial and anti-social decision-making) that they've totally destroyed the open access model that a functioning freenet depends on.

This is the main reason I want to see "unowned" protocols succeed. Jack has it right: we're at a turning point.

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Between Intel ME and AMD PSP I have a feeling all the protocols are "owned".

The Daniel 🖖

100 is rather arbitrary.

quite the whim 🤔

It’ll only get hotter, and the earth will take back what’s hers without us.

Is it possible there is no emergency?

It suprises me that people have so much trust in open source binaries and web extensions.

Even if you build yourself, the dependency chains are usually enormous. Good luck knowing what you're actually running.

It suprises me that people have so much trust in open source binaries and web extensions.

Moving forward I think collisions in the nip space are going to cause the most growing pains for nostr #grownostr

I suppose here 🤷🏻

https://github.com/nostr-protocol/nips

Ah I see... I saw talk about nip-315 which wasn't on that list. Then it was added, then renamed nip-38, and now it's there 🤔

Where are the NIPs discussed / maintained? #grownostr

How does the conversation section work?

If you find out, let me know

Where is the index of all current NIPs maintained now?

I need this.

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https://void.cat/d/M4SJBthQbeRSXeRyYrnJiC.webp

Just deployed a massive redesign of Snort.

Say hello to Snort V2 design, huge shoutout to nostr:npub1r0rs5q2gk0e3dk3nlc7gnu378ec6cnlenqp8a3cjhyzu6f8k5sgs4sq9ac as usual.

https://void.cat/d/RGhg4innbi5cTEfgV1DReP.webp

https://void.cat/d/JkpX5fmKyzGwMASB54sLSU.webp

As usual there are a few rough corners but we should get to them very soon, if you notice anything glaring please let me know.

This redesign has been in progress for over 2 months, the PR changed almost every file in the project.

Nice work! I really like the Settings page now.

BUT .. I truly miss the logo. I had been admiring its retro charm.

Freddie DeBoer describes multiplicity horror: "the way being online exposes us to the existence of billions of other egos".

Nostr's friction re: onboarding is a feature. Nostr isn't exclusive, but it also isn't everyone, everywhere, all at once.

[Freddie: https://freddiedeboer.substack.com/p/what-purpose-do-i-serve-in-your-life]

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I really like snort, you made a really nice client

Nostr is a gateway drug to bitcoin

I think my mother will never get the concept of relays. Splitting them into relays for write/read/search wouldn't make it any easier for her.

I guess the big challenge will be to reduce the complexity of #nostr without centralzing it to make it usable for the masses.

An easy to understand abstraction layer that visualizes everything Nintendo-style could work.

I wonder if this friction is actually what makes nostr unique, in terms of what a user finds here

Nostr lightning integration is very compelling.. paid relays, subscriptions, zaps. It seems to work really well. Huge potential!

I love the simplicity of the nostr protocol and the relay/client ecosystem. This is early internet excitement!

Biggest complaints:

- Bitcoin echo chamber / not enough variety of content

- Difficult to use (my guess is these people have only tried it once 8 months ago lol..)

- Feeds not busy enough

- Toxic to web 3

My thoughts:

I bet we can solve a lot of these complaints just by asking people to select some topics to follow in onboarding and doing away with global entirely, or make it an optional thing. It seems global is responsible for turning people off because they see a bunch of spam / too much bitcoin content and or some other crap.

Topics solves some of this - they will see more focused content.

Better navigation UX can help - like browsing hashtags (see primal).

The network effects thing IS a challenge. Have to have users to create content and have to have content to attract users. Lists could help here. Even something as suggesting a list of RSS feeds that post on Tech news for example would be helpful. We already have RSS feeds for all sorts of stuff but they are difficult to surface.

Engaging with non-bitcoin content can help too (if you find it interesting, probably don’t want to force it).

Other than that I am not sure how to get more non-bitcoin users here other than creating a “safe space” for them where they don’t see that type of content at all. Whether that’s a bitcoin-free relay or a client that specifically mutes bitcoin terms via a pre-defined (user can still modify) mute list, or something else I can’t think of atm. nostr:note1j5cx3j3h7prnr46yyfa4akllsjach4qxhnzu0tu4pcgh3afcj0qs5rd0w8

I just started with nostr and this note of yours sums up my experience so far.. but then there's plenty of interesting discussion in the replies. So.. maybe content is ok afterall.

I don't have a problem with the difficult onboarding. I wonder if it selects for a more interesting user base? TBD 🤔

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