there is not too much incentives to run nostr relay unless everyone will flip to paid model and start charging sats !

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Every post or every comment need to charge like stacker.news so that’s the way for better Web3 social media ⚡️

I don't agree, but you could sign up only to paid relays and thus be sure to only communicate with paying users

If I want to paid relays is like I paid a server to join that community. If you paid every post and comment, you’re not spammy to others…

You don't "join a community", you pay a server to be able to push notes to that server, which means that if you assume an average number of x notes every year and a y amount to be paid yearly for the relay, you have an average amount paid for note that is y/x.

Spam does not get to paid relays, but there are also other filters to leave out spam both at the relay level and client level

It’s make sense.. but what is the different paid relay and free relay? It’s just about the feed right? 🤨

Technically no difference

Then Why I need to pay to paid relay? 😂 if no difference,… 🤨

Because long term all relays will need to have some sort of business model to pay the rent. Actually, paid relays would decentralize more the protocol rather than what free relays do. if there's something free, majority goes ther; if everything comes at a cost, people are going to decide given some criterias they value more. Some will value cheap-ness, thus will use the cheapest relays. Some will value long term storage of notes, thus will pay for relays with longer storage. Etc.

Interesting… never join the paid Relay but I can imagine is like you paid membership premium but the difference is your Data not lost… 😂

In the end of the day all the platform need pay the server for Free or Paid. All the platform social media like that, thats why if you Free user then the platform will charge you to watch the ads.

It's basically what happens with coinjoin coordinators, but with lower requirements feon thw software side

Meh, then nobody will be using it. Paid relays makes much more sense to make it more decentralized

That’s the way to make platform clean from Bots. If you paid you talk with real person who’s willing to paid every comment & post.

agree

Or what about money?

Rules should be set first though.

Your peoples' bullshit is too much already!

How can you control what kind of notes it is broadcasting? What if someone starts using your relay to distribute kiddie porn, wouldn't you be the first target for law enforcement, as the relay owner? That is an incentive for not running one I guess or am I seeing this wrong?

Run your relay over the tor! You can’t stop the porn or other stuff transmitted over relays, there will be always someone who will allow it

Yes but, if them feds really want to, they will track down the relay owner and throw him in jail for other people's deeds... That possibility puts me off from running one, as does running a tor node...

Running relay in some countries might be dangerous so I agree with your take! Even just transmitting notes and not porn or other stuff. Not too many people would want to mess around so the best incentive to make them mess around is money.

Yes, for sure. The only issue is that zaps won't cover attorney's fees. They only like high voltage, unfortunately... I will pass on having my own relay, sadly. Fuck this oppressive world we're in!

Yeah zaps are just for fun. Yeah man, I can feel you, anything that comes to separating govt from money or speech they just blatantly go against you. Idk if people will ever wake up