Bitcoin is the most powerful tool we have to enable counter-economics.

Nostr is very possibly the most powerful tool we have to build upon and expand it into an entire counter-culture.

These are inherently agorist technologies acting entirely outside the control of the state.

Large multi-billion/trillion dollar corporations are proxy arms of the state.

The shit Apple is pulling is just the beginning. This is the war between the individual and the state brought to the forefront of the digital landscape.

Never forget this. The stakes are simply too high to lose.

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I want to see more Nostr powered commerce. There's a couple of good projects right now like plebeian.market, but the userbase is still very small.

The tech is there, as you noted, just needs better UX and wider adoption into clients. This is happening as we speak. Preliminary support for market listings was already added to Amethyst just recently.

plebian.market needs email notifications. Somebody offered to buy my listing but by the time I saw it the offer was expired.

Getting an invalid cert error from that link :/

The UX definitely needs to be improved but the builders are building a better one.

I mispelled the link, it's plebeian.market. Left out the second e. I like that it runs on top of Nostr, but it isn't getting much use yet and there's no organization at all with the listings. They're all just randomly thrown in together in a huge list.

They just remove man in the middle attacks. It should be the norm.

Those men in the middle are used to holding a great deal of power and they won't give up without a fight.

But you are right - this should absolutely be the norm.

Everyday is time to fight this tyranny 👊🏼

Just seen this video (downloaded and reuploaded from Facebook because fuck Facebook).

Some thoughts: this is what living outside of society looks like, you have absolute freedom. These guys are probably never going to join society because they already have freedom money.

They make money the way they do probably because it's the easiest way to make money with no strings attached.

1. Where are they getting their stuff? (What marketplace)

2. How will nostr market place be any different? How do we make honest work easier than stealing?

Few points to this. I can get into more detail if you're interested but I'd need to expand into a long form note (blog post) to get proper deep with it.

Firstly, buying stolen CC info is nothing new, and even in current statist capitalism, it is in the best interests of the banks to detect fraud as fast as possible and compensate the affected customer.

I've had card details stolen before. Got noticed quickly. Card got cancelled and replaced. I got fully refunded. The only party to lose out is the bank. Besides the fact banks are insured for exactly this type of scenario, why the fuck would I care if a bank takes an L? To me that's a victimless crime.

Second, most people on the darknet (which indeed is the epitome of agorism in the digital space) are there to buy drugs, not bank details. This is very clearly reflected in the number of listings for each category. Drugs dwarf fraud. Supply and demand clearly favours drugs.

Now whatever your personal opinion on drug use may be, I hold that it isn't relevant if you believe in individual freedom. If an adult makes a decision to consume a substance that can only harm themselves, they should be free to do so. Additionally, DNMs create a market with increased harm reduction due to feedback systems and knowledge being shared on safe dosing etc (ala Bluelight).

I'd even go so far as to argue this is safer than the pharmaceutical industry which has a long history (and present) of lying about the efficacy, addictiveness, and safety profile of its drugs and making people believe those lies by convincing doctors to repeat them.

Nostr is different from existing DNMs because it enables the potential for greater ease of use and wider accessibility. Most people cba to setup Tor Browser and PGP. But if they can just lookup a NIP-05 in a Nostr client? The barrier to entry has just decreased significantly.

To add one more vital point: what I'm advocating is a parallel economy based around Bitcoin that undermines the state by not paying taxes and allowing free trade among individuals.

Quite obviously, the scope of this is way broader than drugs or fraud. Any small business or independent trader offering a cash discount is already a lowkey agorist.

This will get harder in the future with CBDCs, hence stressing the importance of a Bitcoin circular economy.

P.S. Your video reminded me of this music video, couldn't resist haha.

https://cdn.nostrupload.com/Meek_Mill-Litty.mp4

Definitely food for thought... But it's definitely not a victimless crime.

At best it's inflationary, and at worst the victim gets punished for being victimised.

I'm gonna write a full length post about it to properly articulate my ideas and where I'm coming from.

If the bank takes the hit and the bank is insured it's absolutely a victimless crime.

But again to be clear I'm not advocating for fraud - in a parallel Bitcoin circular economy, people would pay each other in sats instead of a CBDC.

Assuming these transactions are not reported on tax returns like cash in hand deals today, the only loser here is a thief.

I'll tell you what's not a victimless crime. The artificially inflated fees that get pulled out of your pocket every time you make a Bitcoin transaction. Because of so-called ordinals..💀

That's not a crime and it makes no victims. I disagree 100% with that.

Not justifying ordinals, just don't see where the (non ordinal scammed) victims are.

It absolutely is a crime. Bitcoiners paid millions in artificially inflated fees because of so-called #ordinal..⚖️👮‍♂️💀

Here's the post:

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Here's a TL;DR:

nostr:nevent1qqsfuu0pd7xtn7ywfgpyx5ra6tdetkudjjkvscfkqrtfel0ad5fgzlcprfmhxue69uhkummnw3ezu7n9wfhkv6tpwsh8wmmjd3jqyg8sl7r7w7tt4phusj6gq7e95h0wypkhynr0vx4gs5uhtguaamhltqpsgqqqqqqsm9aj2x

Yep, the very definition of a man in the middle #attack. For these characters it's a #lifestyle. A perceived #birthright.

They don't need no stinking #Proof #Of #Work..😆😂🤣🤭

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