Technology disrupts most, but not all.

Most phone companies are now ISPs

Kodak didn't become a digital photography company

Xapo is already a pure Bitcoin bank, Coinbase is becoming one.

Others like Revolut include Bitcoin services.

Will banks survive and thrive with Bitcoin (a lot of people are still addicted to custodial services) or will they die?

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Banks have been around for thousands of years. They're not going to disappear. They'll adapt and business models will be altered.

In the UK, estate agents (Realtors) realised the Internet was coming and so they built and ran the property portals we now use.

Despite their reputation, they were smart.

Bitcoin doesn’t fix estate agents πŸ™

True

It depends if credit stays or not I think. Do we move to a fully asset based monetary system again or hybrid!?

I hope it doesn’t

Certainly the technology available now doesn't warrant giving banks this special privilege anymore. We've already seen massive consolidation b Banks and closing branches.

https://youtu.be/8jzDnsjYv9A

Yes

Yep, a classic case of β€œif you can’t beat them, join them” combined with β€œdon’t adopt; lose out”

Yes

Adapt too. That’s when small, highly agile setups can really get ahead too.

Yes, I don’t think all the banks can survive, but it’s very possible some may thrive, including banks that are yet to exist.

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Weirdly, I am kinda waiting for the publishing world to catch on. We’ve had decades of β€œmoaning” about content monetisation and resorting to paywalls (FT, Times, etc). Allow me to pay in bitcoin and you might see some actual revenue!

Yeh, zapping a small fee to see an article,

Yep and some of their content is actually good.

banks won't die but will adapt, as they should.

people can easily ask for digital assurances on their savings (e.g. multisig), where in the past with gold they couldn't -- it was "locked" away in a vault leading to an easy path for fractionalising if the bank were to get greedy.

so there's money to made by the banks that play fair, which this new tech will force them to do in the long run. the one's that don't ...

Yes, good point.

plus there'll probably emerge a plethora of banks (fedimints) so the market will decide on the responsible ones.

exciting time line for sure

i think it's more likely that we will see something like a controller that has a core of Ark with channels over Lightning and the bank will be Bitcoin and everything else will be a clearinghouse of tier 1 or tier 2 (as in, lightning and ark respectively)

the internet takes out the latency and complexity of banking and it can become a lot simpler

i also think that the single unified lightning network of today will fracture into multiple independent networks, it doesn't have the capacity to scale that big and if it can hook into a bulk clearinghouse scheme like Ark it will be a network of networks

#afternoonthoughts

sensible thoughts.

agree on the unpredictable layering of tech. the white paper didn't specify a lightning layer, then a cashu layer, then a .... so your hypothesis is a totally valid one.