You talking about. And what references do you have? On what bases you form your counter opinion?
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The health system is completely corrupt. People today are chronically ill & obese, & that was not the case prior to modern nutrition recommendations & the rise of vegetable oils in place of animal fats. The very fact that you have no awareness of this is probably a solid indication that you're fat.
More kids are overweight today than ever before. Many of them a getting fatty liver disease which we induce in ducks to produce foie gras by force feeding them sugary grains. Farmers fatten basically all livestock with grains & veg oils. It's really only people who cannot think for themselves & who blindly trust authority that are incapable of seeing what I am saying.
When you relate to general health. Why did the general health then go down while meat consumption did only rise? At least it is hard to argue, that meat is very healthy for any measures. And the fact, you are attacking me and not my arguments indicates you have poor argumentation.
People who talk about meat consuption as a whole without pointing out the shift from fatty & more nutrient dense meats to leaner & less healthy meats are either ignorant of the real problem or they are omitting a major factor on purpose.
I have one general big problem with your argumentation. Why are you attacking me in every post? Aren't you able to have an argument?
But whatever correlations you try to draw. Any correlation does not imply any causality at all. Come up with som sources that show health benefits for extreme meat consumption, or just accept that meat consumption is only healthy in moderate consumption.
Maby the documentary about the blue zones gives one strong argument, that plants are important to live healthy. Because which measure when not powerful aged people can show with their livestyle what is actually the most healthy?
Greate documentary film about habits of cultures around the globe that have the oldest people of human societies:
https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/live-to-100-secrets-of-the-blue-zones-documentary
I am not attacking you. There are people in positions of power who have been lying to everyone for many decades because it makes them money to do so. So people who take your posititon either benefit from perpetuating the lies or they are ignorant of reality. That's not an attack it is just the truth.
And idk what you look like, but if you are overweight which is the statistical norm now, while I (with very little effort) am a muscular 170lbs at 6'1" & my blood pressure is ~100/60 eating red meat with salt & 200+ grams of animal fat every day for 7+ years, wouldn't that be some indication that maybe you should rethink your position?
In human archeological records the advent of agriculture results in everyone being a foot shorter & their teeth falling out. Hunting tribes prior to agriculture were tall & healthy with dense bones & they kept all their teeth. For ~2mil years we hunted and largely avoided plants except maybe in the making of savs & medicines. In just the last couple of generations natives in parts of Australia & Africa who had still been living as hunters have been introduced to western foods & they were completely transformed from everyone being lean & healthy & strong well into their 80s, to fat & diabetic, & addicted to processed grains & softdrinks.
Again, farmers today fatten livestock by feeding them the same grains that are fattening us & making us sick.
Again, the bioavailable nutritional value of meat is far higher than plant products. I would encourage you to read the info graphic I made (tho you may have to zoom in a bit).
Shawn Baker & Kelly Hogan (from the bottom of the graphic) are good sources of info. Dr Chaffee has some great video content, Steak & Butter Gal has some great videos. Jordan Peterson's daughter cured severe rheumatoid arthritis with a diet of only red meat & water. Sugar feeds cancers because cancer (and most other serious illnesses) are the result of metabolic problems. Fat & cholesterol are needed to heal & repair cells & metabolic issues. Doctors & hospitals that are telling people to eat or feeding them sugary & veg oil filled garbage are just killing people.
You can believe whatever you want to believe, I really don't care. Your comments thus far suggest that you care more about aligning yourself with some authority or with what the herd believes (which is why I basically told you to have fun/fuck off). I think those are particularly bad heuristics for making important decisions. It is impossible to be exceptional while trying to align yourself with the average moron or the people herding them around.
W study or one person can not directly be considered represental. But I can imagine, that one can eat a lot of meat and have a healthy lifestyle. Thia is no counterargument against plantbased foods. And I would never say white bread, sugary drinks, cake and all junkfood can be considered healthy. Not say.
And over all health has more factors then just food. It is about physical activity, having a good circle of people around to have fun with and so on that have big influence on the health as well. Eating is just one big factor of the equation to health.
And for your curiosity. I am somewhere normal with a BMI around 22. But this does not give my arguments any real value. Arguments from lean people are not better nor worse in quality then the same arguments from a fat person.
The conversation seems to gain in quality it seems for me.
This can for shure have some truth, that the gain in pultry might not be as good as all the pumping muscleinfluencers try to suggest. Maby also can have some negative health influence I guess.