Bias is real. People have set up shop on Nostr and don't want to think their time has been wasted.

However, data is a metric, and this is the most accurate data available. I've been tracking these stats monthly, and my (and others) personal experience at 3 years in, concurs. I would be happy to be proven wrong.

We all want Nostr to succeed. But denial is not the way of growth.

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Data is either accurate or its not there is no "most accurate". Chasing false data leads to innaccuracies of very high proportions.

We want nostr to succeed, denial is not the way to go. Chasing false metrics isn't the way to go either,

It's sad your anecdote matches this, maybe work on your engagement? Maybe its you in denial and finding comfort in false data?

My anecdotes have not been the same

same. One thing that helped was nuking my contact list and engaging with new people.

I am at 33,632 followers. My engagement and experience is strong enough to justify my statements.

Old accounts, follower counts means nothing for engagement. People with millions of followers on x receive less engagement than an account with few thousand follower accounts in nostr, these are just bullshit anecdotes.

Do you claim to know my engagement?

Yours is a public account on a public network. I can just verify your engagement by looking at your profile, and ill have to say im not suprised.

I have far "fewer" followers than new, but much more engagement.

Okay. I'm not going to dispute you on subjective engagement. I could also chat to my favorite 20 friends over and over every day and claim that I had better engagement.

So make friends.

Save your presumptive advice for someone who needs it.

Sorry for getting under your skin. Force of habit. I like your notes, but I do think you're wrong on this one.

You have not gotten under my skin, my friend. Though I disagree, I respect your opinion. We both want to see Nostr succeed.

It's likely most followers are dead accounts and bots anyway. Anyone who is a default follow in primal also has inflated numbers. Once you remove the bots and dead accounts, the numbers look more realistic for the theoretical number of users on Nostr.

nostr:nprofile1qqs0dqlgwq6l0t20gnstnr8mm9fhu9j9t2fv6wxwl3xtx8dh24l4auspzemhxue69uhkzat5dqhxummnw3erztnrdakj7qg4waehxw309a4x2mrv09nxjumg9ekxzmny9uq3vamnwvaz7tmdd3jkkafwwfjkzmre9ekx7mp0yahvqr has been doing great work to make actually usable stats at npub.world, removing bots and accounts that never interact.

For instance, I show around 5k follows on nostr.band, and around 3.6k on npub.world. Ava is about 33k/6.6k. Yours is very close at 1.8k/1.5k.

These numbers only matter to inflooooencers anyways. Bragging about your follower count is degenerate behavior, best to ignore those kinds of people.

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Also the "trusted account metric" on the site would leave out solid profiles like nostr:nprofile1qqsf5g2kjf2apgafua03mchyezpun03w2c2cslezktk0dvvp80x4slgppemhxue69uhkummn9ekx7mp0qy2hwumn8ghj7un9d3shjtnyv9kh2uewd9hj7qghwaehxw309aex2mrp0yh8qunfd4skctnwv46z7zxfv67 whose been amazing to engage with in the last few days because they Dont have zaps enabled.