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Replying to Avatar Jeff Swann

My mother has a 2012 civic with a conventional drivetrain that she bought in 2014 or so. She has put ~150k on the car. I do all the work on it. Regular oil changes are pretty cheap if you do them yourself. Have done a "drain & fill" change on the trans fluid a few times & replaced the external transmission filter each time. Have replaced brakes once. Tires at least once. Updated the GPS. It hasn't needed anything else. It gets 40mpg, it cost far less than an EV or hybrid, & it is fully capable of driving 800+ miles in a day without long stops if anyone needs to make a long trip.

My girlfriend's diesel BMW gets like 50mpg & diesels are theoretically easier to fuel & to store fuel for in more dystopian scenarios.

I don't think the cost & complexity & closed/proprietary nature of the basic functionality, the unremovable spyware & centralized control, among other limitations of EVs or hybrids really make a lot of sense. If I was going to spend more I'd get the diesel.

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kidwarp 2y ago

Totally agree. If I hadn’t blown up 2 engines b2b in my 02 cavalier I’d still be driving that shitbox. Loved it, got 40mpg. But that was the 4th one to get blown up had to move on.

Generally I get around 80mpg local driving only and 50ish driving wherever. I’ve driven from Chicago to St. Louis no problem on a single tank.

Still not sure why we can’t get a diesel Prius?

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