Likely unwanted but still well-meant advice to my fellow Canadians from across the pond (as I have family in Canada myself):

Give a small pause to the usual separatist propaganda, or soon Alberta will become “strategic” to the US. Bald eagles will fly (for some reason screeching like a red-tailed hawk), and the Yankees will come to “liberate” the poor oppressed people of Alberta from the tyrannical reign of the maple syrup mafia. Alberta, Quebec, and others can return to their usual separatist agenda when things are a bit less chaotic south of the border.

The same goes for Scotland as well. I love them, I support their independence. Damn, I may move back to Scotland myself. But given everything happening in the world right now, it’s just not the time.

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Thanks, but no thanks. It would take years and I’m not afraid of the orange man. We have more in common with the Northern US states, than we have ever had with Eastern Canada, or the UK. However, I do appreciate all of the good things you’ve done for the world, like the rule of law and such. We will keep those bits 😜 There is no better time than the present.

The US seems chaotic, when viewed through the lens of media and extreme perspectives from both sides of the aisle, but they are no different than any other country. I’ve spent enough time there to know who they are, and what Americans are like. They aren’t the ones you see on TV 🤙🫂

I’m not British myself (well, technically I am; I do have a British passport - but I was not born in Britain, and can’t take credit for whatever they did for good or bad in the past). Also, Canadians came to the rescue of this island many times, so the appreciation for your people (even the unapologetic separatists) is mutual.

I hope you get what you are looking for, and that all your certainties and convictions about what the world is or isn’t, and what your friendly southern neighbours will or won’t do when world leaders go insane and war-time military conscriptions begin, turn out to be true. The world would certainly be a much better place if rich “farms of the world”, be it in Canada, Australia, Brazil, Europe, the Middle East, etc. couldn’t be bullied in times of need (or at any time, really).

I’m nowhere near as certain of my own convictions or my ability to predict how people will act when push comes to shove. As far as I’m concerned, if I could bring my family members out of Canada at the moment, I would (not that the UK is doing any better at the moment). Unfortunately, I can’t.

Just like you, I’m not certain of anything, and I don’t know whether I have given that impression, or maybe you’re reading between the lines something that is not there.

I have no idea what the future has in store, but sometimes, some things, are worth risking.

And that is where I stand.

If you came where I came from, it couldn’t get any worst, and I am where I am now, not because of the federal government of Canada, but in spite of it.

Truth! Canada has done nothing to benefit me in the slightest. Everything I have is in-spite of Canada. I only know one thing When we send 47 billion out East and they use that money to bomb children in Feluja with depleted uranium shells I get my knickers in a knot.

Our courts need to kick out the bar. It is a satanic organization that invites our brightest to swear an oath on bended knee to some Inn of court in London! We would do better with the first nation talking stick and peace pipe!

If separation is propaganda.. Who funds it? Certainly not the colonial state of Canada. In my view Alberta separation is very basic, typical hard working people tired of bearing the weight of poor policy.

If you ask me, the “state” is just a more or less fragile consensus of many independent groups pursuing their own agendas and angling for even more power, in a dynamic game of temporary alliances and betrayals. Alberta has its own oligarchs and ruling class with their own local interests, just like any province (or, at a finer-grained level, every electoral district). It is also subject to influence from outside forces, just like anywhere else in the world.

Grassroots people’s or workers’ movements are more often than not violently repressed into oblivion by the powers that be when they aren’t backed by powerful insiders. This is equally true for poor African third-world nations, Middle Eastern petro-states, and rich Anglo countries alike... Even when particularly good times give the impression otherwise. Sorry for painting such a grim picture of the world.

To answer your question more directly: follow where the money and power would be funnelled in a new “independent” and powerful Alberta state (trust me, the "state" isn't going away), and you will likely find the folks seeding and carefully cultivating this so-called grassroots working-people movement.

So the premise of your argument is that Alberta shouldn’t separate because it would become a state in the US, with two senators, in a gridlocked two party system? Two senators that could be swing votes in a gridlocked senate? Because…….the US is the big bad boogeyman under my bed?

The premise of my argument is that the borders defining Canada, Alberta, and your electoral district will change sooner or later regardless. While we’re at it, two-party electoral systems (and even what is currently understood as Western democracy) will also be subject to change. Change at faster or slower paces as local and global alliances fluctuate, like a giant Matryoshka doll of ever-mutating interests.

Old Britain makes for a convenient scapegoat, but is nowadays mostly toothless. Little more than entertainment at a table of much stronger, younger players who haven’t yet had the chance to screw things up as badly (emphasis in "yet"). I’m sure most people confidently believe that things will work out differently for them. “Ok, Grandpa!”

What’s the population of Canada right now, about 40 million? Not the best military in the world, but far from the worst. Relatively young, well-fed, well-fuelled. Able to defend itself, certainly.

A united Canada? Not a group I’d want to mess with. Engaging Canadians by force would be… something, wouldn’t it?

Still, Canada sits there; this vast, icy land with strategic reserves of… basically everything. If those resources happened to become “strategic” and you had to start making hard decisions to feed your own population, keep the gas pumps running, and so on… wouldn’t it be nice if you could, you know, play some divide and conquer? Rich province vs. poor province. French province vs. English province. Then maybe turn the population against immigrants, or certain “dangerous” ethnicities linked to other empires supposedly eroding the fabric of civilisation. Make a giant country with nearly unlimited resources feel “full” and “growing too fast.” Sorry, can’t house, clothe, and feed everyone. Alberta is just giving too much and getting nothing in return…

Maybe a 5-million-person nation with a shiny new passport would work better, right? And how to maintain its territorial integrity? Maybe it works better as a sovereign territory with close ties to a much bigger, much stronger country that can protect you from all the 35 million “horrible folks” surrounding you... What are they called again? Oh yes, Canadians.

This is certainly not the oldest playbook in the world on repeat. The British certainly didn’t do this pretty much everywhere. Nor the Prussians, the Spanish, or any other empire of old.

But North America is different. Divide and conquer wouldn’t work on you. Plus these are different times. No such thing as empires in North America. Only democracies, with two-party electoral systems, and nice folks. Unlike, you know, all those Canadians surrounding you and their electoral system that doesn’t represent you.

The next state, the Alberta state, this one will be different. Built for the people, by the people, with nothing but your best interests in mind. A Canadian state that could leave even the rich Scandinavian nations in the dust. The promised, well-oiled oil machine. Simultaneously Texas and Norway. Who wouldn’t want it? Who wouldn’t be trying to rush there as soon as possible? Who wouldn’t want to cut itself off from the 35 million people surrounding it to accelerate the process? Immediately, if possible?

Hopefully my point came across. I’m not trying to change your mind, by the way. I know that what I’m saying here requires a huge suspension of disbelief to even be considered, despite it happening over and over again all around the world, all the time. Honestly, this is the best defence of “just be patient” I can put together; from someone much less concerned about Canadian politics or its ties to Britain than about their own family members in a rapidly shifting world.

Will it be hard? Yes. Will it be just? Probably not. But we are not asking we are telling.

With the pen we joined and with the pen we shall leave. We've flowed our oil wells for 80 years and are 84 billion in the hole.

Make it make sense. Our own currency would be amongst the strongest in the world! Long live the United States of Alberta!

Off you go then. You certainly don't need my permission for anything. I'm sure that the new state that you are all proposing will not be in debt, stripped of its resources, and held hostage by the exact same mix of global private enterprise and local corrupt yes-man government as today (just in slightly different clothes). I'm sure that Alberta will not, at best, end up as yet another lapdog of the biggest bully around, just like Canada, the UK, and, you know, every other state since the beginning of modern written history. Because… you are different! Better, stronger, wiser, and harder working than everyone else who has ever attempted this. Things will certainly go the way you expect, purely through the sheer might of the local people's willpower. Creating more state is the solution. A new, smaller state what will certainly be different than every other state ever created.

https://youtube.com/shorts/hDy5czc1qq4

And this is why I founded the Alberta Monetary Authority to have this very discussion. Thanks so much for the banter! I really appreciate it. God bless and keep an eye out! We live in curious times.

I’m not as naive as you may think I am. I am fully aware of who funds the environmental organizations to limit our ability to get our resources to market. I’m fully aware of who gets to benefit when we can only sell our products to a single customer. I’m well aware of who restricts our output, stops us from selling to Europe, and then goes ahead and sells their own product to Europe.

I also know who is currently trying to negotiate first rights of refusal for our vast stores of critical mineral wealth. It ain’t about selling Canadians milk, if you know what I mean. I also know which country stands to benefit from an isolated Alberta and its vast oil reserves, arable farmland, cheap energy, cheap land, and cold weather (data centers).

Can Alberta separate and be like Norway, Austria, or Switzerland? Sure, but it will be a lot harder due to the proximity of the elephant in the room.

Does it leave and risk the chance of being absorbed by the US and becoming a vassal state to another master? Sure.

Which is most likely? Probably the second.

But then I ask, are we not already a vassal state to a master?

So there’s a small chance we could end up like Switzerland, or a greater chance we become a state of the US rather than one of Canada.

I’m still willing to make that wager, because in both scenarios, in my mind, my kids are better off.

The nice thing about this senario is perhaps we get to pick our next master. Masters can be good or bad. If we are going to be picking a master, a friend, or stay single Hopefully we will be the ones making the decision.

Any time power is decentralized it is a good thing. We must be vigilent in the defense of our baby republic. You are right! Which is why I don't want the bar ass giving us rules. Revert our law to indigenous law which actually exists and is better the the colonial fuck faces.

The scale of centralization is an order of magnitude higher in the US.

An energy producer and manufacturing union starting with Alberta and ending in export ports in Texas would be more winning.

We already send Texas 900,000 Bpd. We don't need fatter pipelines we need more money per barrel. Send oil West if we must but we really don't need more capacity.

“West” you cannot build pipelines, or export terminals in a province occupied by anti-energy anti-human extremists.

Yes the ability to ship to more markets is the way.

I was referring to Alaska. From Fort Mac. Also when we separate Northern BC will be on side!

Also Churchill Manitoba would be a good place to send oil.

How ever we are totally self sufficient and really don't need to move more oil... We just need more money for the oil we sell.

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