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have you heard what a randy billy goat sounds like btw... pretty funny

😂 yeah. I lived next to a goat ranch for a long time. I've heard all the noises. The one that always got me was kids actually sound like human kids yelling mom. I never got used to that.

yeah, i can imagine... and that's literally what they are doing... i guess as a woman that hits you...

took me like 2 years to stop being tweaked by my cat first time i had one, he had a really good nag tone, beautiful voice too, like a crystal bell

Yep, regular primal panic attacks every spring 😅 cats are good at the mimicry too. Or maybe we are just good at turning it into mimicry? I'm not sure there

they are pretty retarded at mimicry but they can do it when it suits them

so idk maybe they are good at it actually

that same cat that was tweakin my nerves he also one time spoke my name, obviously like a human with a messed up mouth/throat somewhere, they don't do glottal stops very well, it's more of a arabic style silence

i'm sure it's just a coincidence that female cats mating call sounds like a crying baby tho... i mean, when you really listen close to it the difference is pretty easy to tell but when you never heard it before the resemblance is like hearing someone speak a word from your language even though if you knew their language you'd know it wasn't that word

Cats are interesting. They obviously have learned to communicate with humans much better than most domesticated animals. The only ones better at it are dogs. 😅

i dunno if better is the right word, the dog is just pushy

I probably would have agreed at some point but raising a deaf dog changed my opinion. Now I believe they are better at it.

hah, well, don't mistake interactivity for intelligence, or friendliness

😂 No mistake.

humans are descended from tree climbers... dogs don't climb trees. bears do, cats do, lemurs do... numerous types of marsupials do, rodents, but no, not dogs.

😂 No, they dont. Not all bears do. I don't think that's a prerequisite. Creatures that climb wanted to eat us just as badly as ones that don't.

i disagree... the opposable thumbs are directly about being able to grasp onto things

dogs are far less curious and rebellious than cats, rebelliousness and curiosity go hand in hand, and they come in tow with the ability to make use of this information, ie memory

dogs are servile, that is a marker of lower intelligence... mid shall we say

at best you can say a nonservile canine would be animals like coyotes and foxes and other solitary canines