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Women are obscure subjects of nature rooted not in a sense of duty or rigid principles but organic responsiveness.

They exist as mirrors that reflect whatever dominates their emotional climate.

And when a man hands her the authority to shape his value, her nature is to become increasingly cold.

She doesn't test your kindness, she tests your immovability.

Testing your reality for cracks not to see if you fight back but if you dissolve.

He mistakes these tests for punishment and drowns in emotions that aren't even his.

As stated in Jungian psychology: Men's greatest danger lies in becoming possessed by the unconscious.

Her perception becomes his compass, her disappointment a verdict.

Her emotions become his framework and he starts to lose himself without knowing it.

It is not that women destroy men, but that men abandon themselves in the excessive pursuit to connect.

It only feels like she caused the destruction, because she does not explain through words, but through availability.

She didn't ask to rewrite him, but he gave her the pen anyway.

He keeps looking for reasons, why she pulled away, why love turned cold, why it seems that even relinquishing his entire existence still wasn't enough.

But when he looks at it with brutal honesty, he realizes that he couldn't arrive at his truth until he's been stripped of every identity he believed would make him lovable.

Women do not ask a man to be a man, they attempt to verify it.

Blaming her won't rebuild him.

When he truly understands, he blames only himself.

I don’t get the comments about codependency that this post got... Maybe I misunderstood the post, but what I got from it was “a woman will test a man to see if he blindly subject to her wishes, and if he does than she loses all respect for him ”

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That's exactly right and indeed what I meant. Has nothing to do with codependency. It's not in a woman's nature to understand her own nature, though to every rule there's always exceptions. But women in general don't occupy themselves with figuring stuff out, and especially so regarding their own relationships. Because nature made it so they don't have to.

Women are inherently loved, unlike men, who have to be able to provide a lot more than simply existing in order to be loved. Problem therein lies if he provides everything she asks for, her nature is not to respect this and feel unsafe because she feels like she can push him around, which is a sigm of weakness, even if he's just doing it out of love.

The point you made in your post was very hard to understand because:

1) women do this in a completely subconscious way. They will claim that they do not, but their actions beg to differ big time

2) Any man who has self-respect , had the privilege to engage with different women, and is emotionally present, will testify 100% that what you said is true. Most of us had that past experience where you "bent" too much to women requests and they lose all respect for you. It's about the balance between compromising with the other and totally annul yourself for the other.

This "fine line" also reminds me of when women say they want an emotionally open man, but if the man opens too much and show too much weakness then the women also lose respect for him! For us men is a difficult situation that we have to constantly balance just right

nostr:nprofile1qyt8wumn8ghj7etyv4hzumn0wd68ytnvv9hxgtcpz9mhxue69uhkummnw3ezumrpdejz7qpqhspwpfkq7qddnj6h52c03muzgx79l7teeez99n57ys77g4m4vujsxx80sy , I don't think it is about playing games, it's more about testing/natural selection: you want to see what kind of person your partner is made of, and there is nothing wrong in wanting to test if your man has self-respect and has limits.

I think we men also test women (we all test each other in the end, as it should be), can't speak for other men (please chip in) but what I test a woman for is "when there is a difficolty/obstacle how do you react? Do you crawl into a corner and cry, or do you face it and react with actions and optimism?). I also test women to see how anxious they are (women do tend to be more anxious than men on average) because it is really hard to be with someone who is really anxious (at least for me, since I am on the opposite side of the spectrum)

Peace and love everybody, and please let's not make it a men vs women, we love each other and always had, let's get back to it !!

Thanks for weighing in. I pretty much agree with most of what you wrote. However, a man has to learn to test his woman, at least I did and every other man I know. It doesn't come natural to us. That was also part of the point I was making. To clarify the differences between us so that people can have more chance at success in their love life.