I wish I were actually joking. 😏

Most American gun deaths are suicides and many of the police shootings involve men who attack the police or instigate a confrontation in order to get shot. Arguably less-gruesome than jumping in front of the train, but... yeah.

American guns are mostly used by Americans to kill themselves. And hunt deer.

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I think most American guns are used to have fun at the range primarily with the added benefit of protection when you might need it most. It's also extremely hard to quantity the number of crimes and murders that are stopped by people with guns because they aren't a statistics since they stopped the crime from happening in the first place.

This is deranged thinking. That's not most owners, that's most gun deaths. The best case in self defense is not having to use the gun in the first place. You are WAY off base.

I don't even know where to begin with the other tripe you've said. I guess I'd start by saying what is the greatest threat to your property, to your basic human rights? It's not foreign governments if you already have a government that pretends to own you.

Anyone who thinks guns are inherently violent, that self defense is not important, yes, is very weak and is likely to be trampled upon.

Says person so scared of his government that his online persona is a strip of bacon.

Look, I prefer to live as bacon and to die as a man, standing up for my right to not be aggressed upon. I'm not so much scared as I am doing what is morally right: doing my part to protect myself and everyone else from the tyranny of the state. Something you obviously don't fully understand. I swear someone stole your nsec or something.

You're the one who is deranged.

I am multiple times less-likely to be shot or arrested, by a criminal or my own government, here in Germany, than in the USA.

The best case in self-defense is _the other person not having a gun_.

And how do you propose we get the all the guns that are currently out there.

You don't. I don't think you can actively reverse it.

But gun ownership is steadily declining, with the numbers mostly propped-up by marketing them to women, or selling one person more guns than he could ever shoot. Also, the population is aging, so crime should trend down. Hunting is falling out of favor as a sport, as well.

I think a lot of the guns will just decay from disuse or be given up to buy-backs, when people find one in their deceased uncle's belongings.

The push for gun culture is mostly a marketing campaign by the manufacturers and I think their local, civilian market is going to shrink and their foreign, military market is going to grow. You can make a lot more money selling rifles and amunition to the Danish or Japanese armies than to Joe Sixpack. Americans were being encouraged to buy so many guns because _someone_ needed to buy one.

There's a push for gun culture? Based.

No, sorry, it was a phase.

I presume you are significantly more likely to be assaulted by means other than guns in Germany than in the USA, as well. That's how that tends to work. I never expected you to be so indoctrinated into phony beliefs.

There are of course other factors at play like culture and the efficacy of police.

My point.

No, this was not the point you were making. I'm talking about aspects other than gun culture, which you conflate with admiration of violence or of aggression and presented as the key component. I reject that characterization.

There is little chance of my being assaulting by anyone other than a romantic partner, here. But he's less likely to shoot me, that is true.

Great so you can get knifed instead. I for one prefer death by a gun. Knives wig me out. But whatever floats your boat in the fascist utopia your compatriots have erected over there.

knives are dangerous as fuck. They can do a lot of damage very quickly.

a GSW from a 9mm, the most common handgun round, is likely survivable as long as it didn't go directly through your brainstem.

If choosing between a slice through the abdomen with a shot, take the shot and hobble to the nearest ER rather than bleed out on the subway.

_The other person not having a gun_ is also the best case for a murderer, or a monopolist. Somehow this slips through the cracks in your argument. Might want to think about that.

You are, again, missing the fact that my town hasn't had a single homicide or murder in 50 years.

That's your town. I didn't know what your little esoteric town was or any details about it. This is empirical reality, of course there are intricate nuances. Duh.

Your reasoning for why this is the case is faulty and could not accurately be applied in a general sense.

It's the same for most towns, here. The entire country had 214 murders, in 2023. Baltimore alone, had more.

Mass immigration added about 100/year more, for a few years, but now the rate is lower than before the borders opened.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1045508/number-of-murders-in-germany/

The figures appear too low to me

That's murder. All homicide, to the widest definition, (TΓΆtungsdelikte) was 2858 in 2023, including things like car accidents, shaking babies, and late abortions.

That's harder to directly compare, internationally, as the categories and laws don't align. A lot of American abortions would be prosecuted as homicide, in Germany, and would be in the 20k+ range.

They appear too low because our feeling of safety has declined faster than the numbers rose. It is simply much worse, when a guest kills you, than when a local kills, you. It adds insult to injury because they are ostensibly here, to seek safety.

Also, foreign criminalism has replaced native criminalism, which has been declining due to the aging population.

What has nearly doubled, is rape and sexual assault. That's the big one. But it's still more than twice as high, in the USA.

That's a drastic reduction since the peak in the 1940's.

This doesn't address my point.

The county has had 0 murders and homicides. The big city nearby had 8, mostly domestic violence.

Well that's good!! I'm keeping my guns, I'm not hurting anybody, and the government is not taking my shit. GFY.

β€œFor now.”

You’re like the Thanksgiving day turkey, your life is fine, until one day your government decides you’re an unfavorable and they black bag you, torture you, and cremate you.

You’re not actually safe or fine, you just think you are.

β€œIs that Nostr server you’re hiding under the floorboards?”

But this is always the case.

So, stay armed

Many gun deaths are suicides, this is true.

The vast majority of the rest and blacks and Mexicans.