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I don't want to go into every detail, but e.g. the vaccinations as they were used to be made were quite safe. I won't claim that not a single rumor or incident or side-effect was founded, but people dropping by the thousands would certainly be noticed. One could argue that vaccinations could be made mandatory given the known huge beneficial difference between benefits and (very incidental) issues.

However, forcing a known to be novel methodology and technology, with insufficient testing and false communication of efficacy onto a whole population while misrepresenting both the claimed effects and potential risks if not taken, really takes it to a whole new level for me.
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Hazey 8mo ago

No vaccine is ever safe and their value is highly questionable. All those success stories of eradicating nasty diseases were not due to vaccines. That is a lie those diseases were eradicated prior to vaccines due to basic sanitation, food safety etc.

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anonymous 8mo ago

Okay, I don't see a point in attacking this because I know too little of either side of the argument. But I want to throw in a different comment:

There should be some initiatives (on various topics) to gather information, sources, quotes/statements, corrections/arguments in some versioned repository (e.g. git). These kinds of data needs to be gathered as a collective and updated/corrected with annotations and references and (archived) documents.

I'm quite serious about this. Same as how the crypto "encryption"/"privacy" debates start every 3-4 years. We should really do the same there. Including archiving prior judgements. But this needs to be approached as a collective. And "curated" for proper procedure or community-sourced approval or something. It would allow for more serious debate and wealth of material for proper communication/argumentation.

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KentuckyChicken 8mo ago

Read that book he posted. It has loads of data in it.

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MAHDOOD 8mo ago

This is a great book. Vaccines are quack science.

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Whitesnake 8mo ago

Varíola foi erradicada por vacinação. Até hoje o molusco contagioso se transmite oi mesmo a varicela. A população humana aumentou por vacinação, sanitarista, cirurgias e antibióticos.