Do hate Apple, yes, I think Android is a far superior product. Yes, I think you should switch, but I also understand this is an overwhelming and daunting task that most people do not want to do. This is called ecosystem lock-in. They make it incredibly hard for you to switch platforms. This is by design. They all do this!

Nostr fixes this.

Would I want to switch from Android/Google to another ecosystem? No! Would I switch if Google started to lock down Android and we had another viable solution available that wasn't Apple? Yes. I would.

I would hate it. It would be incredibly hard to do. I would bitch and complain. But I would do it because I wouldn't feel right preaching freedoms and then complying with something just because it was the easy route to take.

That's me.

Do whatever you're comfortable with and whatever makes you happy. Derek still loves you. 🫂🫂🫂

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Any recommendations for those that wanna ditch both and just use their laptop? 🤓

In all seriousness you can just buy a Dell laptop or whatever and put Linux on it. Elementary OS is similar in aesthetics to MacOS.

Mobile Linux! Pinephone/Pinephone Pro, Librem5, OnePlus 6/6T, etc. I used a Pinephone running Arch Linux with PHOSH as a daily driver for about 2 years until I dropped it and broke the screen. I'll switch back as soon as I am able to order a replacement screen. We need more people running Linux on phones so we get more devs working on software that works well on smaller screens.

Linux phones are a pipedream. No one wants to gimo themselves on hardware or software features. Sorry. It's been this way since the Ubuntu phone a decade ago. We don't have a viable so solution yet.

The Pinephone and Librem certainly leave a lot to be desired when it comes to hardware but I'd consider those 2 more proof of concept devices. Still, the Pinephone is 100% usable as a daily driver as long as you don't expect flagship performance from it. I reolaced Android with it for years and watched it improve greatly. When it comes to software, mobile Linux is perfectly usable. At least when running PHOSH. GTK4 and Libadwaita have made huge improvements, you can find apps that scale to work on mobile screens for most things. There's a handful of SD-845 devices able to run mainline Linux now as well. I wouldn't call it a pipe dream. I will agree with you on one thing though, Ubuntu Mobile was and is garbage. Then again, I wouldn't even use Ubuntu on desktop either.

I’m ready.

Mobile computing at it's finest.

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i switched back from mac to linux a few months ago.

but with iOS I do not want to change yet

I feel you. I do. It's a daunting task that most do not want to do. It's very disruptive.

in the computer word it was easy since i have been using all three systems for a very long time ..

but since the iPhone 4 I am iOS only ...

I m fairly new to Linux. Most things are seemless but what gets me is when you want to download something and it takes you get github. I don't know what to do then. I want it to just open up a save as box to download when I hit the download button. Not send me to a page with 100 links.

What Linux distribution do you use?

Mint (cinnamon)

mint is debian based I would expect you can actually download everything here without any major issues. but maybe I don't understand it correctly

Can you give me an example?

I’m going to have a go at making a new handset designed for #nostr

I’m also in the process of moving house so not much time for my home brew projects atm. I totally get and agree with you… the days are small numbered before we start seeing all sorts of wonderful new hardwarez <3

should users just skip Android and use GrapheneOS?

Graphene is Android.

it’s a version of it, yes

but should users go full privacy/freedom phone or just not Apple?

That's up to them. If they use a lot of banking apps or mobile NFC payments often, you can't do that on an Android OS that isn't certified by Google. Some banking apps are fine, some are not. Trade offs exist if you go the Graphene or Calyx route.

This used to not be the case and you could run these third party ROMs without issue, but Google added CTS certifications several years back for financial apps for heightened security.

the future for the nostr user that hates to compromise

Well said my friend

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Linux for the win!

Yes

I just use web versions now, I don’t download apps unless I absolutely need to… like Wallet of Satoshi #[2]​ … but even Alby has a Web version … they are the best. #[3]

Sir, apples are important for health, do not hate it.