Fair enough, but it's delisted from Binance, the largest exchange in the world by far, and most others. Not sure what other coin is more delisted/unavailable/banned than Monero. Kraken is basically one of the few major ones left and only offers it in the USA and couple other places afaik.

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I’m not disagreeing with that it is for sure heavily banned and delisted no doubt, but to say you can only use it p2p and self custody is not true. It is still listed on some major exchanges KuCoin, HTX, Poliniex etc. I’m just allergic to absolute statements that are provably not true.

Funny that you think 'listed' has any meaning. It just shows that you don't have much of a clue about what is going on in Monero.

HTX and Poloniex have no Monero to withdraw - for years. They just pretend to have Monero reserves like many other exchanges.

Best to try it out for yourself.

So all the volume is fake? Naw I’m not going to KYC myself on those exchanges so I can verify your point.

Volume of paper coins is as real as you want it to be.

All I say is, you won't leave with the real thing in your hands.

Better don't try yourself. Just read up on other people's experiences.