Pioneering sounds exciting 🤙

What is your nationality? I choose a lawful nation over a legal nation. We can make this happen. I've been envisioning it too.

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Have you read The Sovereign Individual? It might pique your interest.

This is completely possible. I've been having the same vision, although through a different lens.

Nostr (and other tech) are the public houses of the modern day. As we spiral over previous paths, it's easy to miss that we're doing a new flavor of what we've done before.

Networking/community is the answer to security.

It sounds like fiction now but this is going to happen, and it’s going to be important.

Bitcoiners will have to build an alternative or it will be subsumed by fiat world

Been thinking this since months ago. A lot! It is super nice to see you guys also considering this. Let the epiphany begin!

What if we already are, but we cannot see it yet?

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Your use of the word enclaves piques my interest as someone I follow on YouTube also uses that word and has a similar set of ideas. Where did your inspiration come from? Nb. I'm not suggested anyone stole anything I'm just interested to see the parallels!

You're touching on a lot of stuff that I've been giving a lot of thought to recently, as I think a lot of Bitcoiners should be doing. The most important part, that you left open at the end of your note there which was a nice touch, is to overcome one's conditioning to think of one's self as a citizen of a nation. Everyone around the world is force-fed propaganda from birth about the greatness of "their" nation, and just sort of sleepwalk through their whole lives without questioning it in the slightest. Even as someone with a Canadian passport, I can admit to having drunk the koolaid in my impressionable youth. That said, I also have to admit that it's a lot easier to break free of said conditioning when you grow up in a colony without any strong culture, as opposed to a power centre at the heart of a dominant empire. I also haven't lived there in 10+ years which is another factor that works against the average person; hard to break free when you're surrounded and saturated with a perspective that presents itself as both de facto reality and destiny.

Once you get past that though, there are still many major problems that need to be sorted out, for example I don't agree that anything meaningfully revolutionary can be achieved online except what were doing here, which is just the very basic of preambles of theory. But in any case, you have to start somewhere, and like I said, getting in the headspace of being free of dependence from the concept of "the state" or "the nation" is a very important first step.

I've never cared about being "Canadian" and even less now than ever before.

My values never lined up with those that others professed to hold.

My wife and I have at least found a largely Christian community but the Bitcoin aspect is entirely absent bar three of us. People where we are mostly don't understand it and are content to bitch about the problems whilst not offering any solutions.

I wouldn't begin to know what to call myself in terms of a digital nationality.

It fails without food, shelter, and defenders. People can’t live in a digital ether, they must live on the land.

Food doesn’t exist with remote work.

Shelter doesn’t exist with remote work.

Defense doesn’t exist with remote work.

Manufacturing doesn’t build water pumps and light bulbs without raw materials and energy.

Nations exist, and there’s a reason max keiser wants a bitcoin nation state.

I'll tell you my case with an example.

Imagine you are going to a wealthy neighborhood and you see poor people selling food and other stuff around a popular building. Rich people buy some of those things (personal preferences/comparative advantage) but the poor people start to compete between them and the things they sell become extremely cheap.

What's the effect of this? Maybe you could think the poor will be in disadvantage, but this stream of abundant and cheap goods is pretty much uncensorable. If the state wants to intervene, it will have a difficult path to censor the commerce on that place. The other consequence is that, with the existence of this products, general population can start new entrepreneurships and earn money from that, making some of them rich.

If some of them become rich, then they Will probably see the opportunity of making more money by buying a different set of things to other poor people (because the law of comparative advantage) and the cycle begins again

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The thing is that not all aspects of a nation can be replicated digitally.

Too bad he is too blockchain fixated.