Agreed. Is why I use it.

And Dart is ok-ish for what we do with it.

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just curious, can it output a javascript/typescript/html type front end or?

Yup.

Look at rive.app = :110percent: flutter.

Or https://web.nostrmo.com/ for a :nostr: app.

ok, if you can build one codebase with reactivity to cope with small mobile screen up to 4k, i can sketch out the general spec of how the design will be on the 3 different sizes. i have already done a lot of work with this.

desktop apps that can shrink to mobile widths especially are handy when you have a dynamic tiling window manager, lets you stack little displays for apps that you want to watch but don't want big detail unless you want big detail

a great example is chat, btw. having a chat window in a side panel is so neat for collab, with a 4k display and sharing quarter sections of the rest of the screen.

there are so few really good UI designs in production unfortunately. i hate windows but the windows 8 paning system is so intuitive

Quod est "windows 8 paning system "?

i think you can still enable it on 10 and 11

there is a few similar gestural based window paning libraries on linux, though the best one, material shell, seems to have gone to the dark side