So River took my money in an instant but wont give me my Bitcoin until my ID is verified? Im not mad, but this doesn’t make sense.

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Ima start buying from moonpay

Never bought from them. If I remember correctly the fees are really high

Its all about trade offs

robosats or bisq ?

Ya. I like robosats but impulse buying robosats takes to long.

I understand

The Kew atms that don’t take id & required a phone number for a pin. Mostly $299 limits but the fees are high unless your just stacking.

KYC with the phone # 😬

I rather wait for a trade on bisq tbh

A none kyc number might work I haven’t tried a burner

You can get one with sats on silent.link

But the fees on those ATM 😬

https://silent.link/

Privacy ain’t cheap lol

For sure. I’m willing to pay a premium for nokyc sats. A reasonable premium. But pay the ATM owner on top of that. I don’t know man.

But I get your point. I guess it’s better than kyc 🤷🏾‍♂️

Yeah bisq is the way to go if you’ve got no time preference.

Hands down tho.

I can wait. There’s always offers available near me though

Bisq is too much for me.

I prefer it to robosats tbh

Robosats is also too much as well, I just want to set it and forget.

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You don’t like it because you can’t auto dca with it ?

Mostly. Also they use strange payment methods there, amazon cards and random things. You need to jump a lot of hoops to get your hands on some sats.

I guess the payment options are dependant on what’s available where you are. Never used Amazon gift cards on bisq. Seems like a good method 🤷🏾‍♂️

You can't buy freedom that way

But I’m the freedom smuggler? ✌️

It’s the KYC laws they operate under. It’s a lower level to buy/sell your coins on exchange. For withdrawals the state is forcing them to run AML counter terrorism and everything