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The problem is far too many bitcoiners who are U.S. based libertarian or right leaning, especially on twitter, do not engage in good faith with folks who don’t align with their politics and worldview. It’s typically condescension or from an angle of “I have The Truth, and I will tell you why you’re wrong.”

Imo there’s still too much baseline assumption of right/libertarian leaning views in the U.S. bitcoin community in terms of context, but too many don’t see this because it’s like telling a fish they’re breathing in water. Bitcoin doesn’t have a default political or worldview, and bitcoin is not “inherently” U.S. libertarian.

And I’m saying this because many just won’t admit it. I’m a bitcoiner, love bitcoin, the Bitcoin community, and what we’re all building together for a better world. nostr:note13fdlwq5sttdrhv0yw5fev0mlt38w55hae6f6xqtafvt4jjw6tffq04jhrc

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Poly Pagan 2y ago

IMO, its probably because the very premise of Bitcoin aligns perfectly with libertarian/anarchist values. And on top of that, for the first several years of its existence it was very countercultural, which is in stark contrast with modern leftism.

Trey Walsh 2y ago

Someone could argue bitcoin as a tool works well with collectivism or socialism

Libertarian/anarchy for many of us on the left globally is very different than the U.S. more recent wave of folks.

Centralized power, whether it’s govts or companies, is a concern for all bitcoiners in one way or another I would hope. Many folks on the left are deeply troubled by centralized control on things like wars and defense spending, and centralized control in corporations and billionaires.

The Democratic Party, or any party, does not represent a movement or group who says their progressive or left. Progressive/left more accurately defines a value set and way of approaching our coexistence, communities, and solving problems I think.

Undisciplined 2y ago

It seems to be pretty difficult for people on the right to make the kinds of distinctions you're highlighting.

There are lots of natural alliances between libertarians and the types of progressives who are great on war, mass incarceration, and corporatism (The three most important issues, btw). I think of those as real progressives, but it's also not really my place to make that judgement.

Undisciplined 2y ago

It's an interesting point about the right/libertarian American context. Personally, I'm glad that exists, because there are so few spaces where we get to feel at home, but I also would like everyone else to feel welcome in the conversations.

Also, I do have the truth and will tell you when you're wrong. ;)