this is the thing that always made me cringe about ecash forever and i only really crystallized the insight today, thanks to nostr:npub1mhcr4j594hsrnen594d7700n2t03n8gdx83zhxzculk6sh9nhwlq7uc226

the ins and outs of a cashu or other ecash mint are inherently revealed to the mint via IP addresses, you can only have proper ecash anonymity with the use of an anonymising proxy

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ecash is only half the solution, the other side is an actual anonymizing proxy

that's also why i spent most of 2022-2023 working on indranet

I'm so glad I saw this. I've been reading up on cashu for a short while now and was considering giving it a go.

i mean, it's private, in the same way as #nostr DMs are private... between you, the intermediary, and the counterparty

Still... not a risk I feel like taking. It's seems private, but not anonymous.

yeah, as soon as it became clear to me understanding it, now i understand how it can be defended

for ecash, this means being able to exchange tokens to randos without risk of being rugged, and i think the ecash scheme allows this, but nobody so far has pointed out or talked about the need for this change mixing, even though it's intuitive

coins are fungible, but messages are not, so messages can't benefit from this, but ecash can

the ecash promoters need to get some cans of whoop ass for making their claims of anonymity over this

and build fucking change exchanges, this is totally doable

also, change exchanges have a problem of you can't exchange change without correlating the fucking issuer