Lol, my arguments have been fine. Yours have been alright too, much better than anything nvk has said on the topic. From what I've seen him say on this and how he's acted, I think you're giving him too much benefit of doubt.
Yes I don't like how nvk acts for valid reasons, in this instance included.
Insisting that other hardware selling companies be able to use another companies code because otherwise it’s not a free market is comical. Socialism runs strong in these folks. The fact that they are so butt hurt that they can’t profit from other people’s work says it all. Shitcoiner energy
Yes, FOSS is shitcoiner socialist energy. That's right. You're doing great!
PSA: free and open source software is now socialist shitcoining.
Preferring the government not prevent competition in the free market is now socialist shitcoining.
Bitcoin maxipads are such idiots sometimes. It's comical.
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Voluntary FOSS is fine. Bitching an moaning that some companies choose not to do FOSS for business reasons is what has socialist vibes. Keep twisting words tho is all good.
That's a cleaner argument. I'll discuss this argument without insulting you.
If someone thinks they can execute ideas better than someone else, I think we should want and encourage that. Innovators then make their money by executing their ideas better than the competition. Ideas and by extension, goods and services, then flow at cheapest cost from best competitor to the market. Monopolies lose protected edge granted to them by the government.
This is the opposite of socialist. It's pure free market competition. The strong survive, the consumers benefit.
To your comment about certain ppl only liking free markets when it suits them; licensing is not the only way to protect IP, a company could just not release their proprietary code/secrets if licensing (which is enforced by government in this case) is not accessible. Clearly that would have ramifications in a space that values the ability to verify things, but the point remains.
You can have competition without having all ideas,trade secrets,code, etc. shared among competitors. I agree that consumers would benefit if all information was shared so whoever can implement it best can do so, but I also understand that businesses are incentivized to keep a competitive advantage. Doing so is part of the competing.
More power to those that can keep the doors open while being FOSS. Their generosity is much appreciated, but I’m not going to complain about for profit business opting to protecting their work.
Which is exactly what seth was doing by pointing out that coinkite’s firmware is no longer Open Source, but rather Verifiable. He failed to show evidence of coinkite making claims to being open source after they changed their license. That’s why the ‘acting in bad faith’ comments.
On your first two paragraphs, I get the view. I disagree it's the ideal structure for the business landscape (for the government to protect IP) but I'm not gonna go on about that. I insulted you because you characterized my view as socialist and entitled, which it clearly is not. My view is closer to anarchy than anything haha.
I'm pretty sure this particular saga started because coinkite is going to be on the open source stage at the bitcoin conference. That is confusing to people who are unaware. Coinkite accepting to be there is sketch.
https://twitter.com/ck_SNARKs/status/1650875333212602370
Also, here is what Seth had to say about a business choosing not to be FOSS:
https://twitter.com/sethforprivacy/status/1651243037966708746
So he doesn't view it as negatively as I do.
Bitcoin conf thing is just a guess based on timing of Seth's post. Idk.
Nah bro just you. There are some people that understand that it’s different when hardware is involved. Not everyone shares your sense of entitlement and lack of business acumen.
Right there are some people who like free markets but only when it suits them. They use laws to protect their business when it doesn't. They call it acumen. Everyone else who doesn't do this is socialist, commie, entitled, and lazy. You sound like the next Steve Jobs man, keep going.
