What do you think is better: #start9 or #umbrel?

A big plus for start9 is for me that they support https secure access. Umbrel supports today only http.

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I use Start9

Umbrel is a "home server" and not supposed to be accessible from the outside. Hence, it only uses http within the secure LAN. Umbrel allows external access via tor, however.

Can't speak to Start9.

#umbrel

I still want the option to switch on https. I like the options of Umbrel over Start9. Nothing is perfect, I know πŸ˜‚

Yes, for "pro" users, this option would be nice.

Once you can access your umbrel from the net it might require knowledge of setting up ssl certificates, port forwarding at your ISP and wifi router etc. That's why they opted for tor. It works without special settings.

#umbrel

Yep, totally get it!

I'd also like to have the option to utilize the umbrel-native nostr relay for more than personal use. Most friends and family aren't going to run tor. Should they? Yes. Will they? No.

Totally get it.

I did set uo the same nostr relay on a server as public relay. wss://nostr.hifish.org

Here is the docker container you can deploy:

https://hub.docker.com/r/scsibug/nostr-rs-relay

You will need some linux and docker knowhow.

Yep! I've looked into that, did a little on a VPS I'm not paying for now. I really need to setup a server on something with more processing power than my current side project. But the ultimate way to do it is run all of the services you want on your own linux server

I hear great things about Linode, no experience directly yet.

They do lots of sponsoring/marketing. Have not used it though.

They provide virtual server infrastructure with easy deployable software.

Networkchuck does lots of linode-based (& sponsored) stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9x0AN7BWHpCDHSm9NiJFJQ

Or, they could use Caddy reverse proxy, and all of that would be automatic.

Yes. There are ways to do it if they wanted.

Use caddy on my server for reverse proxying and automatic ssl.

I suppose whoever has the knowhow to run a rely on own derver does not need umbrel. Everyone else uses umbrel as home server.

That is probably true. Target users are different. I could see myself buying one of these things and immediately take the OS off it. LOL

Or just buy a raspberry or orangepi 5 (runs ubuntu linux) and do your server on it.

Btw: umbrel software also runs on orangepi 5. Got one running myself.