Whatโ€™ DM standard should new apps use?

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NIP-17

Ty

what DM standards exist?

NIP-4(sucky bu easy standard) , NIP-17(good but large groups are impossible) , MLS on nostr - very scalable to large groups, but new and complicated.

nostr:npub1zuuajd7u3sx8xu92yav9jwxpr839cs0kc3q6t56vd5u9q033xmhsk6c2uc is already working on MLS with White Noise

curious how good it's gonna turn out

Yeah that was the nip I was referring to!

also double ratchet

Yeah that's a step towards MLS idk if anybody's doing it except Keychat, also there's a custom implementation on 0xChat that does forward secrecy with alias pubkeys that's also worth mentioning ๐Ÿ˜›

You can try the new version of 0xchat with MLS group.

If they're a social app NIP-17 is all they'll ever need, if you're looking to specifically make a signal alternative, then MLS is the only way to do large group chats.

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