damn thats attempt murder. must be in europe... you'll get shot in america.
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If you voluntarily sit in front of a car with the engine running in the middle of the road it should count as attempted suicide not attempted murder.
i can rationalize anything too. in fact, i can find 3 reasons in the bible i should kill many people. i just dont do it because hmmm, i have a brain and can think beyond a moment in time.
And these are not law of Moses times anymore. Why does no one understand the Bibles timing for so many rules? 😂 I dont mean you, I mean in general.
In that case there’s no need for believing in these myths at all
Im talking about timing. God and his commandments are ever real.
lol total bullshit
You’re picking and choosing instead of following like typical believers
No. You dont understand what your talking about. You dont believe in these things anyway. You cant pretent to understand them.
I’ve been there that’s why I’m confident in what I say here.
But hey it’s your mind
Whatever man. Im sure there are other topics we can agree upon. 😂 Lets increase the Bitcoin chamber maybe? Yay bitcoin! Price is going up eh?
I think we coast in this range until halving and then ATH afterwards
I have only been in BTC for almost a year now. I cant even fathom what is going to happen for the halving. Going to party for sure.
First bull market is something special. I’m OG of sorts.
Have known and followed off/on bitcoin since 2010 but started buying earlyish 2017
He didn't kill anyone nor was he trying to. Pretty sure he didn't set off in the morning thinking man I hope a bunch of entitled dumbfucks sit in front of my car so I can run them over today.
He was trying to go around them. He physically moved the person out of the way and they ran back in front of the car as he was getting in. When he realized the guy was there again he got out to check the distance, turned the wheel and went around him. Last I checked no one got ran over and he clearly tried to not run anyone over.
You don't get to be the aggressor and voluntarily put yourself in harms way, then play victim when you fail.
we call that energy demon time. i have seen evil many times in my life and have no tolerance for such.
What evil though? Driving to work?
he stopped. that means he knew better.
Right he knew better than to run someone over. And he didn't. So what did he do wrong again?
what country is it? i bet what he did is a crime. its obvious he thinks he owns the road and can put his hands on people. dont touch people or use a vehicle to move them. simple. im not saying the people laying in the road is not a crime but he is a dummy getting involved in foolishness.
A road was built for cars to drive on. It is known that cars are for driving on roads.
A road was not built for people to sit on. It is known that roads will have cars driving on.
One is using objects for their intended purpose. The other is not and attempting to play victim. You don't get to use a chainsaw as a bottle opener and claim murder when you almost get hurt (keyword almost seeing as no one got hurt).
The protestors were attempting to vandalize the guys car. Notice the thing they were trying to attach to his bumper. The guy should have a eight to protect his property and not sit idly by watching it happen. The guy should have a right to extracate himself from a potentially dangerous situation that he did not willingly put himself into. The protestors were the aggressors here. The guy in the car did everything he could and successfully ended the situation with no harm done. I don't care what country this is in, you're arguing morals and morality =/= lawfullness.
bro you just got done ssying you hope some xentotled dumbfucks' sit in front of your car so you can run them over. you are clearly an extremist no different than the dumbfucks you'd run over. 🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️🤷🏾♂️
You completely misread what i wrote and then took it out of context.
I said that I'm sure he DID NOT drive to work THINKING to himself those things.
My intent in writing that was to illustrate the point that he did not set off with an intent to murder. Juxtaposed to that, the protestors did set off that morning to attempt to disrupt things and vandalize others property.
Nowhere in that statement did I project my own intentions.
ok so i will post again what i mean concerning attempt murder.
3 kinds of murder in america.
1st degree - you plan it and execute.
2nd degree - you accidental kill someone
3rd degree - crimes of passion, deaths resulting from drug usage and/or sales, recklessness, or extreme negligence.
you dont have to try to kill someone to be charged with attempt murder. he is clearly in category 3.
I can see that maybe if he didnt attempt to move them and double check no one was in the way when he left. Honestly, no one died or even got hurt here. This isnt an example of any degree of murder. Protesting like these idiots is going to 💯 get someone hurt. Fools they are.
Legality =/= morality
Which one are you trying to argue here? If legality, then don't bring morality into it. If legality, don't bring morality into it.
Since you're stating laws, let's go with legality for now. Let's assume this is America. You say 3rd degree. I'm assuming you are calling it recklessness as no other category you stated really fits.
I'll say it again and go over the evidence in no vague terms:
1) the man in the car attempted to move the guy who was laying in front of his car in thebmoddle of the road (a road which is commonly known for cars to be driving on and in fact not a bed for people to sleep on), out of the way of his vehicle (not a reckless act but the exact opposite).
2) When the guy snuck in front again without the driver noticing, the driver immedietally stopped the car as soon as he realized the man was there again after he attempted a peaceful solution (again, not reckless and shows the opposite intent)
3) The driver then gets out to check where the people are and their distance from his car (again, the opposite of a reckless act as he is planning how to solve the situation without harm)
4) And finally he turns the wheel to go AROUND the guy so as NOT to run him over (again, not reckless and in fact a willful attempt to be careful in extracting himself from a dangerous situation)
All of this done while a group of people have hands on his car, banging on his property, and attempting to vandalize it.
Legally this leans more towards self defense.
Damn man. At the end of that whole exchange, no one got hurt (amazing) and his car 💯 got scratched and now this guy is getting ripped on the internet for just driving his car. Who is gong to pay for that scratch?! Seriously? Stupid way to protest. You know what it is? Because we dont even know what they are protesting! See how that works? 😅 We care about the guy in the car and the event that transpired, not their protest reason. 🤡🌎
It's completely misguided. This is why I called them entitled. A protest is meant to convey an idea in such a way that cannot be ignored. They achieve only half of that. Their entitled ego got them the "cannot be ignored" part right but not the "convey an idea" part.
I feel bad for the guy who got shoved into a tough situation with no easy solution. As far as I can tell, it ended with the best possible result for everyone. Could have all gone down much worse.
As the driver, his only recourse (in america) is to sue the protestors for damages to the car, loss of wages, and mental anguish. Probably won't get him anywhere though amd it'd be a stretch. In the end it just propagates a shitty, gameable, corruptable and often misguided legal system to begin with.
"Probably won't get him anywhere though amd it'd be a stretch. In the end it just propagates a shitty, gameable, corruptable and often misguided legal system to begin with."
Exactly this. He cant do anything about it. In that situation I would rather just physically move the protestor and leave asap before they become more unhinged.
The evil of trying to escape from a bad reverse honeypot situation that other holier-than-thou people actively attempted to put you into while you were going about your day.
He never attempted to murder anyone. Do you not see him desperately dragging them AWAY from his car?
I mean, if you sit in the middle of the road with moving cars, what do you expect to have happen? I'm not saying it was right to hit them, but they act surprised 😂