Even Socrates was complaining about those damn kids apparently.

“The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.”

― Socrates

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And, of course, they collapsed.

Yet Greece is still pretty chill af. I’m always wondering what people mean by societal collapse. Are you just saying they’re not the main empire? Is it so wrong to be a country among countries?

Correct. The tyrants and empire collapsed and now they are just part of and subsidized by the EU. Agree people are pretty chilled; however, easy to to do when public servants make 150k, pension at 55. All good.