also agree. i lost funds on umbrel. no one could help even though i have the transaction receipt and the tx id.

lightning is not bitcoin. it is centralized and has an owner. unlike bitcoin it can be shut down. it is not safe to use. only with micro amounts, it is not even private.

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That is not true at all about lightning. It is not centralized and it is 100% bitcoin. Sats in lightning channels just have more risks associated with them than sats in on chain cold storage.

you need to wake up to the reality. it is an additional layer on top of bitcoin, has almost nothing to do with bitcoin, works different than bitcoin. you can build any other layer on top of bitcoin, it would still not be bitcoin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lightning_Network

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaeldelcastillo/2020/02/05/jack-dorsey-backed-lightning-labs-raises-10-million-to-build-visa-network-for-bitcoin/

Viktor Kaos be like, that’s right.