The conversation with nocoiners can be very enjoyable when the debate isn’t the same tired talking points from people that have spent a few hours (at best) in “crypto” where they treat bitcoin, ethereum, cardano, doge, etc as equals. That’s just a disparity of knowledge and understanding where the footing isn’t equal resulting in less of a debate and more of an educational moment (that can also be enjoyable as long as they’re open to it).